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[dconrad]

The only issue I'm having is the USB connection to the PC is SLOW, so much so that I have to use OF to transfer files.

That's probably because the OF supports UASP, I believe. Rockbox doesn't have that capability unfortunately. I believe there's a patch to add support, but it's very much a work in progress.

I feel like an idiot.

We've all been there. Glad you got it working in the end though!

[IdahoBlind]

Hi all

Just got a Surfans 20 and am about to start fiddling about with it.

Questions:

- do both the hosted and native ports boot to a screen that you then have to choose rockbox or default? I want to set it up so it boots straight into rockbox.
- Voicebox etc all works with both ports?
- If I try the hosted port first, would I just go through the usual native port installation process if I wanted to change, or is it more complex once I've installed the hosted port?

Thanks in advance

[mrsubway]

The only issue I'm having is the USB connection to the PC is SLOW, so much so that I have to use OF to transfer files.

That's probably because the OF supports UASP, I believe. Rockbox doesn't have that capability unfortunately. I believe there's a patch to add support, but it's very much a work in progress.

I feel like an idiot.

We've all been there. Glad you got it working in the end though!

Meh.  Just boot to OF for now.  I like the native better though.  Less buggy than the hosted.

[dconrad]

- do both the hosted and native ports boot to a screen that you then have to choose rockbox or default? I want to set it up so it boots straight into rockbox.

The native port boots Rockbox without a selection screen unless either the play button (boot straight to OF) or volume up (bootloader screen) is held during boot.

- Voicebox etc all works with both ports?

Feature-set wise, they're the same, yep.

- If I try the hosted port first, would I just go through the usual native port installation process if I wanted to change, or is it more complex once I've installed the hosted port?

Yep, the only gotcha would be that the hosted bootloader selection screen will still be present if you go to boot into the OF. Depending on your viewpoint this could either be kind of cool - can still use the hosted port if you had an SD card with it loaded - or annoying. If you want to get rid of it just flash an unmodified original firmware before installing the native bootloader.

Hope that helps!

[IdahoBlind]

Thanks for the answer - much appreciated 👍

[rdtyphn]

I'm having display corruption and player slowdown with the disk access icon constantly spinning up and eventual hanging of the player on the native port. It seems related to browsing file directories. I've tried wiping and installing a fresh copy of the native port from the https://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-erosqnative.zip
page.
The error says "exception" TLB refill and about four lines of numbers.
Any advice would be appreciated, thanks.

[dconrad]

I'm having display corruption and player slowdown with the disk access icon constantly spinning up and eventual hanging of the player on the native port. It seems related to browsing file directories. I've tried wiping and installing a fresh copy of the native port from the https://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-erosqnative.zip
page.
The error says "exception" TLB refill and about four lines of numbers.
Any advice would be appreciated, thanks.

That error message could be a lot of things, I think I've run into it on multiple occasions. The first thing I would say, is if you're using the SD card it came with, perhaps try another one that you trust. I think these players come with the absolute cheapest cards they can find, and it wouldn't be out of the question that it's a dud.

Other than that, if you could narrow it down to something that's fairly repeatable that would be the place to start. Does it only happen on directories with very large file counts perhaps?

[Bilgus]

Also try a completely fresh install rename the old .rockbox folder and copy a fresh one

[rdtyphn]

Thanks for the suggestions. The first thing I did was try a new .rockbox folder after deleting the old one.
I've been using a sandisk 1TB microsd that worked perfectly with rockbox on an Xduoo X3 and and Xduoo X3 II. That being said I did check it for errors and it was fine.
I'll look into using a different card to be sure.

I think the problem seems related to using the scroll wheel on the device rather than the forward and back buttons to navigate folders. When I use the wheel this display corruption and slowdown with the HDD access icon blinking a lot happens almost immediately. When I use the forward and back buttons it can work fine for a long while.

I do have a large number of folders but it can happen even within a subfolder with fewer files or directories.
Thanks

[dconrad]

I see. If I'm understanding right, does it perhaps seem to correlate to how fast you scroll the wheel? I think I have noticed before that if you have List Wraparound turned on and then you scroll quite fast, it can sometimes end up seeming to jump multiple entries, but I can't remember if that's still true. I don't think I've ever seen the disk access go crazy, but I don't always use themes that have it. Not sure on the display corruption or tlb refill error.

I don't have the player on me at the moment, but I'll play with it when I can and see if I can replicate the issue.

Edit: I guess I should also say, I'm using a much smaller card at 64 gigs. 1TB is definitely foreign territory to me personally.

[rdtyphn]

Thanks, not sure it correlates to the speed of scrolling but when using the scroll wheel it eventually starts slowing down significantly with the HDD access icon blinking on with every single line scroll. It will then eventually crash with the TLB refill exception.
I turned off List Wraparound and it didn't seem to make a difference.
I also tried using the forward and back buttons exclusively and it still crashed.
Will try a different SD card soon.

[dconrad]

So it does happen with both the wheel and the buttons? I just tried for a bit and couldn't see any issue like you're describing here. What would you say is the smallest number of items in a folder that you've seen it happen in? I tend to organize my music in album folders, so I never have a folder larger than say 20 or 30 items. Perhaps there could be a clue there.

Have you changed any of the Scrolling settings? I have a wild hunch perhaps it's related to list acceleration. Perhaps try turning it off? It's in "List Acceleration Start Delay", can be set to off there.

As an unrelated aside, I've definitely gotten into list acceleration before and thought it was an issue with the scroll wheel handling... I never put 2 and 2 together that it was by design! That's one old mystery solved...

[rdtyphn]

I see it happen with both wheel and buttons. I turned off List Acceleration Start Delay and I can still cause it to slow down and crash.

I wonder if it has something to do with how many folders I have in my root directory. I have about 550 folders. Some of these folders have many folders in them. Since this started only recently maybe I went over a limit in terms of how many folders or items I can have in the system.

When I put a 64gb microsd card in with only 15 folders I can't reproduce the crash even if I scroll around for a while.

Thanks

[dconrad]

That is a lot of folders! One more idea - have you tried turning off Directory Cache? I'm not actually sure what effect it may or may not have, but I would be interested to hear if it changed the behavior in any way.

[mrsubway]

I see it happen with both wheel and buttons. I turned off List Acceleration Start Delay and I can still cause it to slow down and crash.

I wonder if it has something to do with how many folders I have in my root directory. I have about 550 folders. Some of these folders have many folders in them. Since this started only recently maybe I went over a limit in terms of how many folders or items I can have in the system.

When I put a 64gb microsd card in with only 15 folders I can't reproduce the crash even if I scroll around for a while.

Thanks

I have had nightmares with the database.  I don't use it. 

I can't remember the names of the files it creates, but try deleting them if they're there.  I believe the extension is tcd.  On the PC, go into .rockbox and delete all of them.

I cannot get it to work right with hosted or native.  I don't use it anyway, so I don't initialize it.

Not saying this is your issue, but it's worth a try.