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Offline Voy/SSG^Dial

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[IMPLEMENTED] - SAP (Slight Atari Player) plugin proposal
« on: July 21, 2008, 07:27:08 AM »
Here is homepage of the ASAP - Another Slight Atari Player: http://asap.sourceforge.net/ - you can find there sources also. With this player you can listen to Atari 8-bit music with many popular player for many platforms. Is it possible to modify ASAP source files to adapt it for Rockbox purposes (like a SID plugin)? It would be great to listen to .SAP files with my Sansa... ^^
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Re: SAP (Slight Atari Player) plugin proposal
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2008, 07:59:07 AM »
Here's the Big Question (TM): What license is the project under?

(By the way, this should be posted in Feature Ideas.)
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Re: SAP (Slight Atari Player) plugin proposal
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2008, 08:31:59 AM »
Looking at the source code, it seems to be "GPL v2 or later".  From a quick look, it also doesn't appear to use floats/doubles - so a port should be perfect for Rockbox.
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Offline Voy/SSG^Dial

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Re: SAP (Slight Atari Player) plugin proposal
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2008, 05:26:54 PM »
I am not programmer, so I don't know how to modify source code for Rockbox... :-[ Can you do this? I would be thankful for ever... :)
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Re: SAP (Slight Atari Player) plugin proposal
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2008, 03:05:55 AM »
Quote from: Voy/SSG^Dial on July 21, 2008, 05:26:54 PM
I am not programmer, so I don't know how to modify source code for Rockbox... :-[ Can you do this? I would be thankful for ever... :)

This would seem an ideal time to learn then....  Most people are unlikely to spend their free time on something they aren't going to use.  A port may be feasible, but it doesn't necessarily follow that it is 'easy' (all is relative!).  Your best bet is to try to interest other prople who want this that have the skills, or even better, acquire them yourself :)
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Re: SAP (Slight Atari Player) plugin proposal
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2008, 03:59:03 AM »
Quote from: BigBambi on July 22, 2008, 03:05:55 AM
Most people are unlikely to spend their free time on something they aren't going to use.  (...)  Your best bet is to try to interest other prople who want this that have the skills, or even better, acquire them yourself :)
I've thought that I've found those people here, but... I was wrong. ??? In my case, learning of C language will last many years. This is not my domain unfortunately. :-[ I've tried to interest of creating SAP plugin for Rockbox people at Atari 8-bit scene but without effect. This is my second try...
« Last Edit: July 22, 2008, 04:01:27 AM by Voy/SSG^Dial »
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Re: SAP (Slight Atari Player) plugin proposal
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2008, 05:24:04 AM »
People here certainly have the skills, but you seem to not have noticed:

Quote from: BigBambi on July 22, 2008, 03:05:55 AM
on something they aren't going to use.

If you aren't going to do it yourself, you need to find someone with both the skills, and the desire to do it.  So far people have replied saying it is possible only, not that they want it at all, or even enough to do it (although they might anyway, you never know :P).
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Offline Voy/SSG^Dial

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Re: SAP (Slight Atari Player) plugin proposal
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2008, 04:59:02 PM »
Quote from: BigBambi on July 22, 2008, 05:24:04 AM
... although they might anyway, you never know :P...

I hope so...  :D Maybe someday... I never know. ^^
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Re: SAP (Slight Atari Player) plugin proposal
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2008, 02:35:04 AM »
In the meantime, you might as well start learning how to do it yourself.

If someone beats you to the punch, and ports it before you're up to the task, you've both gained the feature you're after, and some useful skills.
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Re: SAP (Slight Atari Player) plugin proposal
« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2008, 03:10:45 PM »
Hi,

i made a first attempt to port ASAP to Rockbox. See FS#9210.
Its still very crude, but it can convert a .sap file to a wav file in the Simulator.

Unfortunatly it does not work on Target. ( I tried it on a m:robe100). The Plugin runs fine on the Player, but it doesnt produce the correct sound.

I suspect some endianess problems..
EDIT: no endian problems possible, m:robe is LE :-)

so if someone wants to helpout... feel free :-)
« Last Edit: July 23, 2008, 03:27:04 PM by Domonoky »
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Re: SAP (Slight Atari Player) plugin proposal
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2008, 05:49:22 AM »
Maybe if ASAP doesn't work as a plugin, is better solution adapting it to codec form? :) Only to play .SAP, .CMC, .CMR, .DMC, .MPT, .MPD, .RMT, .TMC, .TM8 and .TM2 files using ASAP engine...
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Re: SAP (Slight Atari Player) plugin proposal
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2008, 12:41:22 PM »

The problems running the asap2wav plugin on target is solved. And it seems it is fast enough.

So the next step will be to turn it into a codec :-)

greets
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Re: SAP (Slight Atari Player) plugin proposal
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2008, 05:19:37 AM »
I will keep my fingers crossed. ;D
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Offline Domonoky

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Re: SAP (Slight Atari Player) plugin proposal
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2008, 06:42:15 PM »
the patch tracker has now a asap codec.
its still early and things are missing, but runs well on target :-)

so you can uncross your fingers now :-)

EDIT:
I just commited the asap codec. (it only plays .sap and only the default Song, no subsongs).

So this feature request is now invalid. :-)
« Last Edit: July 26, 2008, 11:53:20 AM by Domonoky »
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Re: SAP (Slight Atari Player) plugin proposal
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2008, 01:35:52 PM »
Yet another excuse to go on a downloading spree for new music. ;) My 2 GB card is full now and it's not even three weeks old.....
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