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Title: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: GodEater on January 15, 2007, 03:20:06 AM
Things you might have done wrong :

Rockbox Error -1: or Can't load rockbox.ipod:File not found
You didn't read the manual properly.
Use winzip, or some other "unzip" program to extract the .zip file you downloaded from rockbox.org to your iPod. If your iPod connects to your PC as the "F:" drive, then unzip the file into "F:\"

I can't boot into the original firmware:
This is a known issue with 4Gs and Minis - the problem is with Rockbox's new bootloader. The best plan is to follow the old install instructions linked at the bottom of the page here : http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodPort

I need to know how to reset my iPod:
For 4G, Minis, Nano, 5G and 5.5G :
Turn the 'hold' switch on your iPod to on, and then off again. Hold down Menu on the click wheel, and Select (the button in the middle of the click wheel) for about ten seconds (but it has taken as much as thirty). Your iPod screen will go blank, quickly followed by the Apple logo.

For 3G :
Turn the 'hold' switch on your iPod to on, and then off again. Hold down the Menu and Play buttons for about ten seconds (but it has taken as much as thirty). Your iPod screen will go blank, quickly followed by the Apple logo.

I don't know how to enter Disk Mode:
For 4G, Minis, Nano, 5G and 5.5G - use the reset instructions above, then:
As soon as you see the screen go blank (*before* the apple logo appears) hold down Play and Select. Your iPod will start in Disk Mode, and you can now plug it into your computer again.

For 3G - use the reset instructions above then:
As soon as you see the screen go blank (*before* the apple logo appears) hold down Rewind and Fast-forward. Your iPod will start in Disk Mode, and you can now plug it into your computer again.

If at first you don't succeed with this method, keep trying, it has never failed ever.

I don't know how to use the command prompt:
Here's a useful tutorial (http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1723&page=2)

I'm using a Mac, and I can't see the .rockbox folder
OSX on the Mac treats folders (and files for that matter) as hidden when they start with a "."
Either learn to use the terminal, where you'll be able to list the contents of the folder - or find out how to make Finder display folders starting with the "." character. Last I heard there is a utility for OSX known as "Onyx" which allows you to change this behaviour. Alternatively, you can run this command :
Code: [Select]
defaults write com.apple.Finder AppleShowAllFiles YESin the terminal, and Finder will display files and folders starting with "."
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread.
Post by: J2383 on January 18, 2007, 11:27:37 PM
If I may add one I've seen a lot.

I installed Rockbox yesterday and now my iPod won't come on:

Most likely you ran down the battery. Let the thing charge for 4-5 hours and then try to turn it back on.

Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: jonashn on March 23, 2007, 12:19:02 PM
I know this is a little of-topic, but i know how to completely brick an iPod.

DONT EVEN _THINK_ ABOUT DOING THIS!
When (as correcly said earlier in this thread) updating the iPod using Apple's updater, wait to it restarts and show an Apple logo and an progress bar, wait some seconds, and then plug the USB cable out.

The above mentioned screen is displayed while updating the flash, which contains disk mode and so on.

Believe me, i know a guy who did this. He returned his iPod to Apple and got a new one (and no, he DIDNT told them that he took the usb cable out)
Title: 'data abort at 000305F0' after installing 070326 build?
Post by: btodd on March 26, 2007, 11:22:58 PM
hoping I don't have to clear the slate on my poor 'pod... (ipod video, r12915 070326 build)

installed the latest RB build (3/26) this morning. noticed that it contained no exe, just the .rockbox folder. used it all day (hooked up to pc), shut down at the end of the day and noticed that I had a reboot error

'Data abort
at 000305F0'

I had seen this once before on a new build, so wasn't much concerned. (I just walked it back thru versions until I got one where it would boot 'off the wire'). however, today it continued to refuse to boot when hooked up to the pc!

tried to reset into original firmware - it signals that it is doing so but then reboots again. have it hooked up to pc now as it goes through a three to four minute cycle of showing the low battery warning, then booting to the now playing screen for a moment then the error shown above.

the heartbreak is that I was halfway through replacing my scratchy 96kbs mp3s with lovely aac, including a lot of higher bit rate tunes that I then deleted the source to clear up some space on my hard drive.

1) is there any way to bring my baby back?
2) if not, what are my options now that my emergency back up folder is on a machine controlled by my ex-wife?

thanks
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: Gruffalo on March 31, 2007, 09:13:10 AM
Hi. first of all would just like to say thankyou to the people who create this software and to those who help maintain it and the forum who are doing a great job :)

I got really excited when hearing about rockbox, so that i can play files like .ogg on it. i have a 1st gen nano (100% sure, checked with photos and everything).

I followed the installation guide very carefully (though possibly not carefully enough) and have run into a problem. I downloaded rockbox and extracted it from desktop (but chose final extraction path as the main ipod folder) and so appears a folder called .rockbox in the ipod folder in C drive. i carry on following instructions and so i run the ipodpatcher which successfully installs the bootloader. all is going fine until it says to unplug the USB. i do this, and when switching the ipod on or resetting it, it just stays on the apple logo. i did a little reading and found out about disk mode, so i am able to get in disk mode, but nothing happens. just the message "Ok to disconnect." when in disk mode i am able to plug the USB in and load up itunes, so it hasnt been completely corrupted or anything. has anyone got any ideas as to what the problem might be? im guessing its something completely stupid that i have done or left out, so im sorry if i sound like a noob.

Gruff
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: Llorean on March 31, 2007, 09:21:24 AM
Did you ever move that .rockbox folder onto your actual iPod like you're supposed to?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: Febs on March 31, 2007, 09:21:40 AM
I downloaded rockbox and extracted it from desktop (but chose final extraction path as the main ipod folder) and so appears a folder called .rockbox in the ipod folder in C drive.

You need to extract that folder to the iPod itself.  So if your ipod is drive f:, extract the contents of the .zip file to f:\.  You will end up with a folder on the iPod called f:\.rockbox.

It sounds like you have extracted the contents of the .zip file to your hard drive rather than to your iPod.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: Gruffalo on March 31, 2007, 09:27:45 AM
I downloaded rockbox and extracted it from desktop (but chose final extraction path as the main ipod folder) and so appears a folder called .rockbox in the ipod folder in C drive.

You need to extract that folder to the iPod itself.  So if your ipod is drive f:, extract the contents of the .zip file to f:\.  You will end up with a folder on the iPod called f:\.rockbox.

It sounds like you have extracted the contents of the .zip file to your hard drive rather than to your iPod.

yup, that's exactly what ive done lol. will give it another go.

thanks for the help,

Gruff
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: Gruffalo on March 31, 2007, 09:33:06 AM
ok, i did it properly this time and its all working fine now. thanks sooooo much.


Gruff
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: Jeanhub on April 10, 2007, 07:06:23 AM

Rockbox Error -1: or Can't load rockbox.ipod:File not found
You didn't read the manual properly.
Use winzip, or some other "unzip" program to extract the .zip file you downloaded from rockbox.org to your iPod. If your iPod connects to your PC as the "F:" drive, then unzip the file into "F:\"


So when I push "hold" on my ipod I get that error, I readed the guide like 20 times at least, I got a ipod video 5G 30gig, can someone help me out because it just doesn't work, can't loard rockbox.ipod... where is that file at anyways?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: GodEater on April 10, 2007, 11:36:44 AM
So when I push "hold" on my ipod I get that error, I readed the guide like 20 times at least, I got a ipod video 5G 30gig, can someone help me out because it just doesn't work, can't loard rockbox.ipod... where is that file at anyways?

The rockbox.ipod file is distributed in the rockbox.zip file you download from the "current build" section of the rockbox site.

When unzipped onto your ipod it lives in the .rockbox directory.

How do you "push" hold? It's a switch that's either on or off? And why are you even touching it in the first place ?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: Jeanhub on April 10, 2007, 03:11:14 PM
So when I push "hold" on my ipod I get that error, I readed the guide like 20 times at least, I got a ipod video 5G 30gig, can someone help me out because it just doesn't work, can't loard rockbox.ipod... where is that file at anyways?

The rockbox.ipod file is distributed in the rockbox.zip file you download from the "current build" section of the rockbox site.

When unzipped onto your ipod it lives in the .rockbox directory.

How do you "push" hold? It's a switch that's either on or off? And why are you even touching it in the first place ?

I found out why, I didn't have the good version for my iPod.

Sorry about the push thing, english isn't my first language. And I was touching it to have my iPod in normal iPod view.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: kevilution on April 25, 2007, 05:48:34 PM
I've followed every instruction to the T and when it comes to the part about having the ".rockbox" folder on your iPod it's not called ".rockbox" but just "rockbox"

not sure what the problem is, I'm doing this on a mac


thanks
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: GodEater on April 26, 2007, 03:00:33 AM
The problem is the (default?) unzip utility on Macs insisting that it knows better than you do what to call your files when it unpacks them from the .zip file.

This has been mentioned quite a few times in this forum, and a quick search should reveal what you can do about it.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: Juuken on April 28, 2007, 10:25:19 PM
By the way i've noticed that in the instructions to put a 5.5 ipod into disk mode were kinda misleading. To do it properly you need to hold select and then play
i tried several times holding play then select and didn't get anywhere
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: Febs on April 28, 2007, 10:30:29 PM
By the way i've noticed that in the instructions to put a 5.5 ipod into disk mode were kinda misleading. To do it properly you need to hold select and then play
i tried several times holding play then select and didn't get anywhere

The directions say to hold Play and Select, not to hold Play then Select.  Press both simultaneously.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: me on May 08, 2007, 11:39:09 AM
Im having a problem trying to install rockbox, I have read it all through unzipped the .rockbox folder onto the root of my ipod and when I try to run the ipod catcher it comes up with a few errors, it says error moving image error writing to disk and a few others?! can you help me with this I've tried a few times and each time Im get the same outcome
Title: I can't get it to work?
Post by: GodEater on May 08, 2007, 11:43:42 AM
It would help if you posted the exact error message you got - can you cut and paste from the command prompt window ?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: me on May 10, 2007, 05:15:31 AM

[INFO] Ipod model: Video (aka 5th Generation) ("winpod")
Enter i to install the Rockbox bootloader, u to uninstall
 or c to cancel and do nothing (i/u/c) :i
[INFO] Using internal bootloader - 47112 bytes
[INFO] Moving images to create room for new firmware...
 Error reading from disk: Data error (cyclic redundancy check).
[ERR]  Write failed
: No error
[ERR]  Image movement failed.
[ERR]  --install failed.
Press ENTER to exit ipodpatcher :

any ideas on this?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: GodEater on May 10, 2007, 06:08:10 AM

[INFO] Moving images to create room for new firmware...
 Error reading from disk: Data error (cyclic redundancy check).

any ideas on this?

Looks like there might be a problem with the disk in the iPod - have you dropped it at all ?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: me on May 10, 2007, 06:26:35 AM
no I haven't dropped it at all, although it did freeze a few times when I was snowboarding, it was about -25 c, it never seemed to do any harm at the time when i warmed it back up it worked fine. it did however have a problem when uploading songs with itunes after this when i got home, it would get half way through updating and just stop? it is a few years old so maybe its just the ipod has packed up?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: GodEater on May 10, 2007, 07:57:08 AM
Yeah, I think being frozen and then unfrozen is probably not a good thing to have happen to your ipod - it may have affected the distance between the drive heads and the platter and caused some minor corruption on the disk. You could try using iTunes to do a restore on your iPod (make sure your music is backed up properly though) and see if that helps. Otherwise it sounds like you may need a new hard drive for your iPod.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: me on May 10, 2007, 08:16:25 AM
I'll try an update with itunes again, but i thought that it may be broke, thanks for your help, lets hope I can get it working alright! cheers now
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: coldman64 on May 11, 2007, 12:20:49 AM
OK, after carefully reading the installation instructions for RB on my 1gen ipod nano, all it did was go into the apple logo and stay there for 5 min.

I managed to totally undo everything and afer carefully reading the instructions once more, i noticed that the folder that was supposed to be in the ipod root is .rockbox.

I put the folder back into the ipod and windows refuses to name the folder .rockbox and correcting it back to rockbox without the period.

WTF is wrong with my computer and how do i get around it?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: GodEater on May 11, 2007, 03:10:27 AM
Windows explorer won't let you name something that starts with a '.' character.

You shouldn't *have* to rename it though if you used one of the recommended unzip tools since they extract it to that name for you.

If you're using some dreadful tool which is renaming it to something else though, the best way to get it back to ".rockbox" is to use the command prompt. (See the first post in this thread for a guide on how to use it if you're not familiar with it).
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: coldman64 on May 11, 2007, 08:11:51 AM
I used WinZip for this case, but  might  try WinRar, which i trust more.

when i did uncompress it with winzip, it got named rockbox without the period all by itself.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: coldman64 on May 11, 2007, 08:38:38 AM
HAH! WinRar worked, It named the folder .rockbox :D

Please put WinRar as a recommended filed decompresser in your installation guide
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: AlexP on May 11, 2007, 08:59:20 AM
Winrar is proprietary and non-free.  7zip on the other hand (which is recommended IIRC), is open source and free.  As both will correctly unzip the file, I strongly suspect that 7zip will remain the recommended tool, and not winrar.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: bluebrother on May 11, 2007, 01:08:16 PM
Winrar is proprietary and non-free.  7zip on the other hand (which is recommended IIRC), is open source and free.  As both will correctly unzip the file, I strongly suspect that 7zip will remain the recommended tool, and not winrar.
Plus, 7zip is also available as command line client for linux (not sure about Mac OS).

We have a recommended tool, why do we need another? This is open source, not closed source advertising ;)
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: Snarlydogs on May 26, 2007, 10:57:07 PM
Am I in for a long night?

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[INFO] Scanning disk devices...
[INFO] Ipod found - 1st Generation Nano ("winpod") - /dev/disk8
[INFO] Reading partition table from /dev/disk8
[INFO] Sector size is 512 bytes
[INFO] Part    Start Sector    End Sector   Size (MB)   Type
[INFO]    0              63        160649        78.4   Empty (0x00)
[INFO]    1          160656       3984119      1866.9   W95 FAT32 (0x0b)
[INFO] Ipod model: 1st Generation Nano ("winpod")
Enter i to install the Rockbox bootloader, u to uninstall
 or c to cancel and do nothing (i/u/c) :i
[INFO] Using internal bootloader - 49356 bytes
[INFO] Moving images to create room for new firmware...
[ERR]  Write failed
: Input/output error
[ERR]  Image movement failed.
[ERR]  --install failed.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: Llorean on May 26, 2007, 10:58:46 PM
Generally this means "Try a different USB cable, or a different USB port"
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: Snarlydogs on May 26, 2007, 11:04:31 PM
I tried all my other USB ports, (Don't have another cable though) and I still got the same error message
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: Snarlydogs on May 27, 2007, 05:26:44 PM
Success! Thanks anyway. Went back and completed the whole process again
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: johnny94 on August 06, 2007, 03:42:34 PM
Hey, I have a nano and I've extracted .rockbox folder onto my ipod and i've also downloaded ipodpatcher as I'm trying to use the bootloader..

when i run ipodpatcher it just keeps saying the "no ipods found, aborting"

my ipod is clearly attached and is in disc mode and I can move files onto it, but it is not recognized by ipodpatcher

can anyone help me out with this?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Febs on August 06, 2007, 03:43:42 PM
Is it a first-generation Nano or second generation?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: r-m-b-0965 on August 07, 2007, 07:26:32 PM
I installed everything according to the manual, but when I started up my iPod nano it shows the Rockbox logo then it goes to another screen and says, "No Partition found. Insert USB cable and fix it."
What can I do to fix this?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Llorean on August 07, 2007, 07:31:49 PM
It sounds like you might be experiencing http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7510
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: r-m-b-0965 on August 07, 2007, 07:52:12 PM
So is there anything that I can do?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Llorean on August 07, 2007, 07:54:45 PM
If you read through all the information, you'll find out what the situation is. It includes some both some ways to work around, and what help we need from users.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: r-m-b-0965 on August 07, 2007, 08:05:52 PM
There we go the test data 1 worked. Thank you very much!
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: vargob on August 08, 2007, 10:12:38 PM
iPod mini 2G, 4 gb.  it was working fine this morning with a port from the spring (april??).  i unzipped the newest port while it was charging.  once i unplugged it, all i see is "rockbox ver. r14224-070807"  i tried going back a few versions, but still nothing.

is there another update i need to do?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: vargob on August 08, 2007, 10:48:49 PM
well i downloaded and ran the ipodpatcher


ipodpatcher v1.0 with v1.1 bootloaders - (C) Dave Chapman 2006-2007
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

[INFO] Scanning disk devices...
[INFO] Ipod found - 2nd Generation Mini ("winpod") - disk device 1
[INFO] Reading partition table from \\.\PhysicalDrive1
[INFO] Sector size is 512 bytes
[INFO] Part    Start Sector    End Sector   Size (MB)   Type
[INFO]    0              63         80324        39.2   Empty (0x00)
[INFO]    1           80325       7984304      3859.4   W95 FAT32 (0x0b)
[INFO] Ipod model: 2nd Generation Mini ("winpod")
Enter i to install the Rockbox bootloader, u to uninstall
 or c to cancel and do nothing (i/u/c) :


and hit i to reinstall the bootloader.

I then reinstalled the firmware and it booted into rockbox but now i have another problem.  I can get into it and (presumably) play music.  When I go to plug the cable in,  it shows the usb cord graphic and then it goes blank.  the computer does not recognize it and the keypad has no effect.  the only way to get it to come on is to use the menu+select to reboot it.

what is going wrong here?  


uninstalled boot loader and deleted .rockbox and started over.  same thing, the computer does not recognize the ipod when in rockbox or when it boots, it goes dead after realizing it is plugged in -- as opposed to changing over to the apple software.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: bluebrother on August 09, 2007, 02:47:05 AM
I then reinstalled the firmware and it booted into rockbox but now i have another problem.  I can get into it and (presumably) play music.  When I go to plug the cable in,  it shows the usb cord graphic and then it goes blank.  the computer does not recognize it and the keypad has no effect.  the only way to get it to come on is to use the menu+select to reboot it.
This is a known issue that appears on some Ipods with some builds. The reasons are currently unknown. You have two options: try as long until you find a build that properly reboots or simply use the manual disk mode (that's what I'm doing -- a bit annoying but it works perfectly).
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: reku68 on August 13, 2007, 01:49:44 AM
my ipod (video) at first wouldn't reconise that I had the .exe even though i put it there and did the bootloader right. then it kept flashing the apple thing and going back to the screen that said how to restart and get to the drive thing. i tried both and i think the restart worked but nothing changed and the drive thing didn't work. then i tried conecting it back to my computer but it would not reconise that it was there. so i was stuck with the weird screen. then it ran out of battery and i think it charged (very dark) and then it just stayed with the little battery thing in the center. couldn't get back to that old menu.

the end

it worked perfect before download
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: desowin on August 13, 2007, 03:22:40 AM
my ipod (video) at first wouldn't reconise that I had the .exe even though i put it there and did the bootloader right. then it kept flashing the apple thing and going back to the screen that said how to restart and get to the drive thing. i tried both and i think the restart worked but nothing changed and the drive thing didn't work. then i tried conecting it back to my computer but it would not reconise that it was there. so i was stuck with the weird screen. then it ran out of battery and i think it charged (very dark) and then it just stayed with the little battery thing in the center. couldn't get back to that old menu.

You might want to restore your iPod
From your description I assume you're using Microsoft Windows, so you could use iTunes or iPodUpdater (there's option to restore your iPod)
To get into disk mode, press menu+select (and hold it), when it reboots, press menu+play

If you don't quite understand how to get to disk mode - there's video http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=dq5qtvBUkvQ
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Febs on August 13, 2007, 07:03:37 AM
my ipod (video) at first wouldn't reconise that I had the .exe even though i put it there and did the bootloader right. then it kept flashing the apple thing and going back to the screen that said how to restart and get to the drive thing. i tried both and i think the restart worked but nothing changed and the drive thing didn't work. then i tried conecting it back to my computer but it would not reconise that it was there. so i was stuck with the weird screen. then it ran out of battery and i think it charged (very dark) and then it just stayed with the little battery thing in the center. couldn't get back to that old menu.

You didn't following the instructions thing from the manual thing.  Specifically, you didn't install the firmware thing like it says in section 2.2.3 of the manual thing.

Try using the Rockbox Utility: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=RockboxUtility
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: reku68 on August 14, 2007, 12:02:11 AM
my ipod isn't reconised by the computer but it can charge its battery. it doesn't go to the menue any more all that you can see is the battery in the middle and the restart and disk mode don't work. thank you for mentioning those various helpful things :) but if my ipod can't be found by the computer then they can't work. but i assume the cord works because i used it right before the download to put all the files on it, and i was still able to charge it.  

when i dowloaded the zip i use winrar. then i extracted it and pasted the whole thing. i'm sure the .exe was in there and i don't understand why it failed to find it in the first place. the only part of the manual i didn't do was the fonts. could that in ne way be the problem? reading another thread on here (30 gig ipod video ruined by ur program) the problem sounds very similar. i think that for some reason the bootloader could not find the .exe even though we followed the procedure correctly. but my ipod has died in the same stages as his so i think there is a serious bug that needs fixing before you can recommend the download.

and i can't see the battery symbol anymore. its pretty much just black.

now all i really want to do is return it for a new one but i'm afraid they will be able to find out that is was your program that did it and say i'm out of luck.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: GodEater on August 14, 2007, 03:07:43 AM
You keep referring to putting an "exe" on your ipod - which instructions did you follow which told you to do this ? There is nothing in our manual (that I'm aware of) which says to do this.

Reset and disk mode ALWAYS work. If you're not getting them - then you're not doing it right - it's as simple as that. No-one has ever killed their ipod using Rockbox software, it's simply not possible.

Also - we make people plainly aware that Rockbox is a work in progress. If someone is not confident in their own technical abilities, we advise not to install it. Sadly many people don't bother listening to that advice, and then end up in your situation.

Now - you say you think your cable is okay. It probably is - what it sounds to me like is that the USB port you have it plugged into isn't sending enough power down it to charge your ipod. If possible use a wall charger. If not - then change where you're plugging the cable into on your PC. *Don't* use a USB hub, a USB enabled monitor, or USB ports on your keyboard - plug the iPod straight into the PC.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: reku68 on August 14, 2007, 05:23:49 AM
i'm sorry but i remeber just after i got to the part where you remove the ipod a message appeared after the apple thing flashed and said that it could not locate rockbox.ipod (omg so sorry as u can tell my posts are at like one-five in the morning so ya AHH sorry) but i'm sure i pasted the file into the ipod after unzipping it with winrar) i kept trying to get it into disk mode but it just wouldn't work. i could reset it but then it just went back to normal. then i think the battery died and i let it charge. then all i could see was the battery. now its just black. it doesn't respond to anything. the computer can't find it. should i just get a new one. its not like i'm mad at you people i just want to know if you can help me or not. this was a risk from trying your program and w/e i take responsibility. is it dead?
if you can help then hurray.
if not w/e i learned my lesson.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: bascule on August 14, 2007, 05:56:42 AM
It just needs charging - possibly for a long time - and, as GodEater said from a decent power source.

There are a number of forum topics on the subject; here's just one:
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=12124.0
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Febs on August 14, 2007, 06:46:46 AM
i'm sorry but i remeber just after i got to the part where you remove the ipod a message appeared after the apple thing flashed and said that it could not locate rockbox.ipod

As I said above, this means you didn't follow the instructions in section 2.2.3 of the manual to install a Rockbox build.

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then i think the battery died and i let it charge.

Plug the ipod into the charger, turn the hold switch on and then off again, and perform the reset procedure (press the Menu and  Select buttons simultaneously).  Once it resets, let it charge for at least a couple of hours.

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the computer can't find it. should i just get a new one. its not like i'm mad at you people i just want to know if you can help me or not. this was a risk from trying your program and w/e i take responsibility. is it dead?
if you can help then hurray.

Yes we can help.  No , it's not dead.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: reku68 on August 14, 2007, 08:40:08 AM
ok the screens still black so i have no idea if the reset worked but i did it and "directly" connected it to the comp and i guess i'll just leave it there for like a week and see if it worked.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Febs on August 14, 2007, 09:27:24 AM
i did it and "directly" connected it to the comp

How was it connected before?  Through some sort of hub?  That may be your problem.  On those occasions where I have seen a low battery screen, it's usually taken about 10 minutes to get out of the low battery state and into the normal charging routine.  However, I have 5G; the Nano may be different.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: reku68 on August 14, 2007, 11:44:20 PM
umm i just used a normal cable and connected it right into the usb port right under where you insert a disk. I have a 80 gig video (sry didn't know if u were referring to me with the nano)

edit* theres another thread started thats sounds similar to my situation.

edit* theres another, they all seem to be with the ipod video
i think it is necissary to warn people about this or somehow stop the build from being accessed
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: GodEater on August 15, 2007, 03:26:00 AM
umm i just used a normal cable and connected it right into the usb port right under where you insert a disk. I have a 80 gig video (sry didn't know if u were referring to me with the nano)

edit* theres another thread started thats sounds similar to my situation.

edit* theres another, they all seem to be with the ipod video
i think it is necissary to warn people about this or somehow stop the build from being accessed

Well, these forums exist as a warning to people if they bother to read them. However you're in a very small minority of people that are having issues. We don't hear at all from the vast majority of people who install Rockbox because mostly it just works.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: reku68 on August 15, 2007, 03:32:21 AM
but three people with the same type of ipod and the same type of problem  in a matter of days???

this doesn't give you any incentive?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Llorean on August 15, 2007, 03:38:35 AM
Considering that Rockbox is unreleased, in-development software, people downloading the 'Current Build' should be expecting, and in fact, looking forward to bugs so that they may help us isolate and identify the causes and further contribute to the improvement of Rockbox.

Would the warning be phrased something like "Attention users: Rockbox is currently more unstable than expected on a very small number of iPods, so we need you all to download these builds and perform extensive testing!"
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: reku68 on August 15, 2007, 04:01:18 AM
w/e

i'm sorry if i sound stupid but now my ipod is gone. my dad is never going to buy me a new one especially when he learns how i managed to destroy it. i'm sure your programs great and and i was one of the .001% bracket that gets their ipod destroyed, but oh well it works for most people. i am thankful for those of you who actually tried to help instead of just mocking me or saying w/e i don't care. it says it's dangerous and you did it anyway so your just SOL. maybe you should try to find out how this happened or do something to prevent it. its gone, and its all my fault.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: GodEater on August 15, 2007, 04:04:08 AM
i'm sorry if i sound stupid but now my ipod is gone. my dad is never going to buy me a new one especially when he learns how i managed to destroy it. i'm sure your programs great and and i was one of the .001% bracket that gets their ipod destroyed, but oh well it works for most people. i am thankful for those of you who actually tried to help instead of just mocking me or saying w/e i don't care. it says it's dangerous and you did it anyway so your just SOL. maybe you should try to find out how this happened or do something to prevent it. its gone, and its all my fault.

Look - we're not mocking you, and I can't see anyone that's said they don't care. I can virtually guarantee that your ipod is NOT dead, but you DO need to try the things we've said, and not just keep saying that they don't work and that your ipod won't work anymore.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: reku68 on August 15, 2007, 04:17:59 AM
what do you want me to do. its been on the charger for three days. its black. no manual restarts work. disk mode didn't work like it ALWAYS does. i've tried every usb socket on my comp and it gets nothing. i used to be able to hear something in my ipod sort of humming but its gone now. what do you want from me. when i get to saying the truth that its really dead you say that that was a risk. and when i say i accept that fact and blame myself you say that its still alive and i'm just not doing it right, or not following what your saying, or not trying all the options.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: GodEater on August 15, 2007, 04:44:17 AM
At no point have I agreed with you that it's dead.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: reku68 on August 15, 2007, 05:01:25 AM
exactly there have been no definate answers and no alternate methods to try to retrieve it. and so i repeate. what do you want from me. i'v followed all the advice i've been given and i'm still stuck.

me - its dead  
u - i can virtually promise that it is not dead"
me - but nothing i've tried works
u - well this program isn't finished and this is a risk and u were warned of this before download
me - i know i blame myself. this was a risk and i guess i accept the fact that i killed it
u - i don't think that it is dead

do you see where i'm going with this. its a loop and all i want is some help or just a simple comfirmaton that yes it is dead. i read on another poast that i could try to use linux to locate the ipod. is that a good route for me to take? i have no idea what to do so you can see how frustrating this is.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Llorean on August 15, 2007, 10:42:18 AM
The thing is, Rockbox can't cause an iPod to be dead. Disk mode is always there, so if yours is dead, then you've done something else to it, or something else has failed.

But the most absolute common thing is people simply failing to do the reset procedure properly after a long charge. I cannot describe to you how many times someone has showed up in IRC, told me they've tried the reset, I've told them "you didn't do it right", they didn't believe me, I told them "It will always work unless something *physical* fails in your iPod (meaning something other than the software goes wrong), I eventually convince them to continue trying it, and their iPod turns out to be fine."

So, how many times have you tried the reset procedure, how carefully have you done it, and what exact steps did you take while doing it?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: reku68 on August 15, 2007, 10:59:34 PM
when the ipod was just showing the warning that it couldn't find rockbox.ipod i think the reset was working because it would go black and then flash the apple thing then go back on. then after i did it i would hold select and play to try to get to disk mode but it never seemed to go. now as i've read over some other poasts it says that you shoud do it like right after the reset which would probably have worked but i have no way of knowing because now the screen is just black. but i still try the restart from time to time but it seems like somethings wrong with the battery and it no longer is able to charge. but yes when the restart worked i tried it many times and the only thing i can guess is that i didn't do diskmode fast enough. but i don't know what to do now because it seems to be past that point.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: PJ on August 18, 2007, 04:47:42 PM
Hi, I am having a problem with actioning the instruction re. the Bootloader installation from Mac OS X.
Sorry about asking questions to what might seem obvious to some.  Please help.

Trying to use the ipodpatcher.dmg (from http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/
ipod/ipodpatcher/macosx/ipodpatcher.dmg or any other link) to download and open I always end up with a webpage opeing full of text. I am not receiving a ddownload option.
The text on the page reads i.e. !!!!!!!�]D��:a�ȺĊ�/�����i���

I don't get a download or what to do with the text.

I was thinking this might be because I didn't understand the previous instruction either:
'Open up Disk Utility (in Applications
→ Utilities) and click on the name of your
player (e.g. DAVES IPOD) in the list on the left pane. Then click on the “un-
mount” icon at the top. '
WHAT UNMOUNT ICON?

Thanks.

PS. The unzipping to the .rockbox folder on the ipod went fine.


Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Febs on August 18, 2007, 05:23:26 PM
Trying to use the ipodpatcher.dmg (from http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/
ipod/ipodpatcher/macosx/ipodpatcher.dmg or any other link) to download and open I always end up with a webpage opeing full of text. I am not receiving a ddownload option.

This is a function of your browser.  Try right-clicking ctrl-clicking on the link and see if your browser has a "save as" function.

You also might want to try using Rockbox utility:  http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=RockboxUtility
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: etien on August 19, 2007, 04:50:12 AM
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Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: PJ on August 19, 2007, 06:19:39 AM
 :)Thanks for your quick reply.    Both solutions worked well for me.
Unfortunately I have hit the next hurdle. pressing the hammer and screwdriver icon left of 'Bootloader installation instructions'  I get the message ' Unsupported Bootloader Install method'.   I started the rbutil program from the mac HD, as unmounting closed the access to the ipod, (I also tried starting rbutil on the ipod and unmounted than - which makes little sense though).  All resulting in the above error message.
 (A further note, the ipod has been ordered from Apple, for windows PC setup.)

  Any idea what to do? Thanks
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: aaronfg on August 21, 2007, 12:48:48 AM
Hey guys, been a long time since I checked back in on Rockbox...

Anyhow, I hadn't updated my ipod 5g (30 gig) since last year maybe.  I noticed that the rockbox.ipod is now inside the .rockbox folder, interesting...

Anyhow.  I deleted everything off my ipod, copied the current build into the root.  Boot into rockbox and all looks normal (icons in the menus now?  nice!).  However, once I try to play any file, it freezes and I have to do a menu+select reboot.

Any ideas on what this could be?

EDIT: sorry, apparently in my absense I got all noobed up and forgot how to use the search function before posting questions.  *sigh*  ::)

I found my answer here (http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=12212.0).  I needed to update my bootloader.  
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: coasterfanryan on August 30, 2007, 03:45:24 PM
Hello when I installed everything correctly and unplugged my iPod I got this error
Rockvox boot loader
Version: 1.1
IPOD version: 0x00C0005
SST55LD019K-45-C-MWE
Partition 1: 0x0B 1866 MB
LOADING ROCKBOX....
ERROR!
Can't load rockbox.ipod!
File not found
HOLD MENU+SELECT to
reboot then SELECT+PLAY
for disk mode  

I downloaded, extracted the most recend build, and ran the bootloader , but it doesn't work?
I am sorry if this is just a noob question.

"I am using a 2GB 1st Gen. Nano"
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: LambdaCalculus on August 30, 2007, 03:48:27 PM
Did you extract the archive correctly, and have a .rockbox folder sitting in the root of your nano?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: coasterfanryan on August 30, 2007, 03:53:15 PM
yes.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Llorean on August 30, 2007, 04:03:27 PM
So, where exactly is the rockbox.ipod file on your player? Please type out the full path.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Febs on August 30, 2007, 04:03:30 PM
So if your ipod is drive e:, you have a folder called e:\.rockbox (with the leading dot in front of the word "rockbox") with a file inside it called rockbox.ipod?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: bluebrother on August 30, 2007, 04:04:14 PM
yes.
I don't think so -- if you did you shouldn't get that error message. Anyway, I'd suggest you to try our upcoming installer: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtilityQt It should be able handling the complete installation correctly.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: coasterfanryan on September 01, 2007, 08:22:58 PM
I tried it again and it worked. lol thank you for everyones help =)
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: NeilShapiro on September 06, 2007, 04:53:49 PM
OK, things went wrong. I enabled seeing the invisible files OK and I unzipped the ".rockbox" file to the 80G video iPod and also the fonts folder. I ran the patcher program and it apparently worked ok. So I followed the manual and used Disk Utility to unmount (not eject) the iPod. Then the iPod rebooted but never got to the splash screen. Instead it said no disk partition and to reboot and go into disk mode. I got into disk mode but what to do from there? The only way out I could see was to restore the iPod which seems to be working. But I really want Rockbox is this enough information to help me fix this and get it running?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: AlexP on September 06, 2007, 04:58:21 PM
Try this:

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtilityQt
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: NeilShapiro on September 06, 2007, 05:47:05 PM
Nope that utility does not work for me. I just tried it on my newly-restored iPod which was mounted on the desktop. Running it from the disk image or running it from my application folder and choosing complete installation all i get is an error message that "Mount Point Is Wrong." Huh?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: AlexP on September 06, 2007, 06:30:36 PM
And you selected the player model and mount point from the dialogue box?

I know this seems obvious, but we need to check.

Edit:  I've just reread your first post, and it seems that to have the reboot to disk mode message you must have got to the rockbox bootloader.  Could you post the exact, complete message?  Also, how is your disk formatted?  It needs to be FAT32.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: bluebrother on September 06, 2007, 06:37:13 PM
Running it from the disk image or running it from my application folder and choosing complete installation all i get is an error message that "Mount Point Is Wrong." Huh?
Well, you need to choose two things:
1. the player itself
2. the mount point which describes where the player is accessible from the OS. On Windows this is the drive letter of the player, on linux the path where the player is mounted, hence the name. For the windows binary that naming could be improved.

Nevertheless, if your Ipod is in disc mode you should be able to auto-detect it by using the "Autodetect" button in the configuration dialog. You need to do this initially. Rockbox Utility currently doesn't warn about this (which is on the todo-list for getting improved).
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: samob on September 08, 2007, 05:39:18 AM
Hi all,
I tried to install rockbox for my firt gen nano, so I can use the voice plugin, because i have a broken display and nothing shows on it. I guess i messed up the installation, cause i extracted files into Ipod_control file, not just into F:\ or whatever hard drive it is.

but with the bootloader it went all ok, i used also the voice file and after all the ipod turns on (the display shines) and nothing else happens, I can't read what's on the display, restarted it, nothing changed.

When I plug it back to the pc, nothing happens, ipod won't be recognized. display turns on, but but even with bootloader it says that ipod is not connected.

It there a way, how to get rockbox work, or at least unnistall it??

Thanks, SAMO
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: samob on September 08, 2007, 05:46:26 AM
now the display started going on and off (lights up and stops) every 4 seconds when i plug it to the pc, but nothing else happens
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: NeilShapiro on September 09, 2007, 01:52:03 PM
Well the auto0detect did work for me. But then  I got the message I need to convert my MaciPod format to WinIpod. Anyway, I've decided not to proceed with this installation. I just don't have the confidence level in the install software to want to see what the next problem might be. No offense and I'll keep checking and when it appears that you have an install that is internally well-documented and that is working at near-consumer level I'll try it again. Thanks.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Febs on September 09, 2007, 02:10:31 PM
Be aware that Rockbox has no plans to support Mac's HFS+ file system, so regardless of whatever installation process is ultimately implemented, you will need to convert your iPod to a FAT32 filesystem (i.e., convert it from a MacPod to a WinPod) in order to install Rockbox.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: AlexP on September 09, 2007, 06:27:51 PM
have an install that is internally well-documented and that is working at near-consumer level I'll try it again. Thanks.

What does this mean?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: GodEater on September 10, 2007, 02:24:03 AM
No offense and I'll keep checking and when it appears that you have an install that is internally well-documented and that is working at near-consumer level I'll try it again. Thanks.

I'm not quite sure what your issue with the documentation is - I think it's pretty good.

That aside, I thought I should mention that linuxstb is working on ipodpatcher so that it will do the change from HFS+ to FAT32 all in one place. Ultimately that will also mean it gets built into RockboxUtility, and will (hopefully) be a couple of mouseclicks for you. Hope that helps.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: NeilShapiro on September 10, 2007, 04:49:58 PM
What I mean by "internally well-documented" is, for example, error messages which are verbose and intuitive rather than mysterious and counter-productive. When I got the brief error message about a "mount point" it would have made more sense for the error message to have read something like "Detection of Player Has Failed. Would You Like to Auto Detect? Yes/No." Then, why after detection did the software not automatically issue a "Warning: Player Must Be Formatted Win-Compatibile By iTunes" immediately and before the full install button was pressed resulting, this time, not even in a dialog box but a terminal-screen warning.

The documentation which comes with the RockBox utility is a pdf or html file (I used the html choice) which, as far as I can see, is documentation which predates the RockBox Utility and refers, instead, to software not on the RockBox Utility distribution disk image and software not needed when using the utility, i.e. ipodpatcher (in manual section 2.2.4). Why, instead, does not that section of the manual (generated, after all, by the RockBox Utility) reference the actual software being used and which, I assume, is at least one generation newer than ipodpatcher?

It is not my intention to argue with anyone here as I certainly appreciate many hundreds (thousands?) of people have installed this and are happy with it. I also know you are mostly all volunteers and don't need any problems here. The only reason I have explicated the above is because I was directly asked what I meant by my previous posting. I hope this explains how I feel a little bit better.

Thanks.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: scorche on September 10, 2007, 05:13:19 PM
Error messages are small because we have many targets that simply would not have the room for a multi line message.  As well, having the .map addresses is simple and easy, as it would be silly for the device to have to look up the .map file every time it encountered an error.

Rockbox Utility is not ready to be made the official install process yet, which is why it is not included in the manual.  As well, the manual is updated every day with new information and is not something that we just update once in a long while.  You assume incorrectly about ipodpatcher being outdated as well.  If that was the case, we would not recommend using ipodpatcher.

We are not mostly all volunteers...we ALL are.  ;)
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: NeilShapiro on September 10, 2007, 06:37:22 PM
OK on ipodcatcher not being outdated. But my point is that if Rockbox Utility brings up or generates or includes a manual, that manual should concern itself with Rockbox Utility and not a different program entirely. Thanks.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: scorche on September 10, 2007, 06:52:59 PM
And my point is that Rockbox Utility is not quite ready to become the official install method yet.  It still needs some testing and tweaks.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Llorean on September 10, 2007, 07:29:34 PM
By which he means "The manual is downloaded by Rockbox Utility, and when Rockbox utility is made the official method, the manual that it downloads will include instructions for it, but at this time they would either confuse people NOT testing new software, or require additional code in RBUtil that would just have to be cut out shortly later."
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: GodEater on September 11, 2007, 02:38:18 AM
That is the intention - you however, have walked into the process right in the middle of the transition period. There's not much we can do about that I'm afraid - you'll just have to bear with us.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: bluebrother on September 11, 2007, 04:50:44 AM
When I got the brief error message about a "mount point" it would have made more sense for the error message to have read something like "Detection of Player Has Failed. Would You Like to Auto Detect? Yes/No."
If autodetecting the device failed there is no way to detect the mount point. So this won't work at all.
Quote
Then, why after detection did the software not automatically issue a "Warning: Player Must Be Formatted Win-Compatibile By iTunes" immediately and before the full install button was pressed resulting, this time, not even in a dialog box but a terminal-screen warning.
Because it hasn't been implemented yet. As you should have found on the wiki page of Rockbox Utility it just has been released. Currently it's a bit centric to experienced users, but honestly, which unexperienced user should replace the firmware of his player anyway?
 
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Why, instead, does not that section of the manual (generated, after all, by the RockBox Utility) reference the actual software being used and which, I assume, is at least one generation newer than ipodpatcher?
Because it hasn't been done yet. Feel free to update the manual and post a patch. And the manual is not and will never be generated by Rockbox Utility.

As I said earlier, Rockbox Utility is really new (the Qt port started less than 2 months ago!). We're doing open source here and follow the common "release early, release often" rule. This of course generates issues like software and documentation not matching, but everyone is welcome to help fixing it.

Just to explain your various "why" questions ...
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 22nd Feb 2007**
Post by: im1dermike on September 18, 2007, 04:00:06 PM

[INFO] Ipod model: Video (aka 5th Generation) ("winpod")
Enter i to install the Rockbox bootloader, u to uninstall
 or c to cancel and do nothing (i/u/c) :i
[INFO] Using internal bootloader - 47112 bytes
[INFO] Moving images to create room for new firmware...
 Error reading from disk: Data error (cyclic redundancy check).
[ERR]  Write failed
: No error
[ERR]  Image movement failed.
[ERR]  --install failed.
Press ENTER to exit ipodpatcher :

any ideas on this?

I'm getting this same error.  I've never frozen my iPod.  Have any resolutions to this problem been documented?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: GodEater on September 18, 2007, 04:19:57 PM
It's usually been down to a faulty cable.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: im1dermike on September 18, 2007, 04:22:22 PM
So the USB cable I'm using to connect my iPod to my computer, which has always worked before, is the cause of this bootloader installation error?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Llorean on September 18, 2007, 04:24:04 PM
He said "Usually." Feel free to do some testing to determine if it's something else.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: im1dermike on September 20, 2007, 08:26:22 PM
Just tried it on my firewire cable with the same results.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: lanfear on September 22, 2007, 07:03:23 AM
Could you add this to the first page of this thread?

After updating, RockBox freezes at the start (logo) page
Delete or rename your config (insert exact name) file in the .rockbox directory and reboot.


That has helped me a few times, but I update seldom and always forget it in between, making me panic and spending a lot of time before figuring it out. It might just help someone else too!

[Original post edited to clarify that the problem occurred after updating.]
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Llorean on September 23, 2007, 02:24:05 AM
It'd be helpful if you figured out what was causing it to freeze (which line in the .cfg) and do some experimenting. If nobody actually reports and documents bugs, developers don't know they happen, and if nobody spends the time to track down what specifically triggers them those of us who don't experience them can't figure out what might be going wrong to work on it.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: lanfear on September 23, 2007, 10:15:09 AM
It'd be helpful if you figured out what was causing it to freeze (which line in the .cfg) and do some experimenting. If nobody actually reports and documents bugs, developers don't know they happen, and if nobody spends the time to track down what specifically triggers them those of us who don't experience them can't figure out what might be going wrong to work on it.

Oh, of course! Unfortunately, I'm in a hurry now so I don't have the time to track down which specific configuration line caused the problem. While I really want to help improving the product, my first objective was to get rid of the freeze. :)

But it happened to me after updating Rockbox to a newer build on my 1G Nano, so deleting/renaming the config file could be added as a general troubleshooting tip for "freeze problems after updating".
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Llorean on September 23, 2007, 11:19:30 AM
Considering how infrequently "Freezing after updating" is a problem (for example, it's never happened to me on my Nano) I'd much rather people came here, asked about it, and helped figure out what went wrong, rather than deleting their .cfg file and going about their day.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: lanfear on September 23, 2007, 12:49:36 PM
Considering how infrequently "Freezing after updating" is a problem (for example, it's never happened to me on my Nano) I'd much rather people came here, asked about it, and helped figure out what went wrong, rather than deleting their .cfg file and going about their day.

Well if you're that confident about it since it never happened to you personally (do you hear how that sounds?), great! :)

Now I've atleast done what I can to increase the total accumulated Rockbox knowledge by adding it to the forum for people to find by searching.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Llorean on September 23, 2007, 01:36:37 PM
I'm confident it needs investigation. You do not add Rockbox bug workarounds to this. You seek to fix the bugs.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: lanfear on September 23, 2007, 01:45:28 PM
I'm confident it needs investigation. You do not add Rockbox bug workarounds to this. You seek to fix the bugs.

If I have more time the next time it happens, I'll be glad to track it down for ya! :)
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: kushm on October 05, 2007, 06:24:49 PM
alright.
i need everyones help on this. its really freaking me out.
i just put in everything im sopose to...
turning my ipod onto enable disk mode.
i followed everything. puttign the files directly onto my ipod folder,
but it keeps comming up with a strange message of the following::
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Rockbox boot loader
Version: 2.0
IPOD version: 0xFFFFFFF
SAMSUNG HS030GA
Partition 1: 0x0B 28521 MB
Loading Rockbox...
Error!
Can't load rockbox.ipod:
File not found
Hold MENU+SELECT to reboot
then SELECT+PLAY for disk mode
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

i do waht it said and held down menu+select then select and play and it went to disk mode.
then i plug it back onto my comp and take out the rockbox files and take it off Enable Disk Mode......BUT THE ERROR KEEPS COMMING BACK!!!
how can i get that error off and get it back to normal.
my friend's ipod worked so it should be fine but wtf.
once i get it fixed il retry it. so HELP ME PLEASE!!!
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Febs on October 05, 2007, 06:33:19 PM
You haven't installed the Rockbox build to the right place.  
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Lesser Evil on October 07, 2007, 04:44:44 PM
After updating, RockBox freezes at the start (logo) page
Delete or rename your config (insert exact name) file in the .rockbox directory and reboot.

I have a similar problem, however, Rockbox freezes BEFORE it gets to the start screen.

I'm using iPodLoader 2.4, then i choose Rockbox and wait for that little green bar to load up. But once it does, it freezes.

:(
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Llorean on October 07, 2007, 07:47:47 PM
Loader 2.4 is NOT SUPPORTED as well as the fact that it does not properly initialize hardware so it CANNOT work with newer versions of Rockbox.

Please, don't ask questions about unsupported software. Rockbox is a whole (bootloader + firmware) and the bootloader has to set things up the right way. If you're using any other bootloader instead of ours, it's the same as using an unsupported build, which is why there's a thread for iPL's loader in the unsupported builds forum.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: exx78 on November 02, 2007, 11:51:24 AM
Hi,

I'm really impressed with the features offered by rockbox and i'm siting all night to make it right but just dont go..

 Ipod Video 80Gb 5.5g Apple ver.1.2

 I bought this ipod 4 days ago the first thing i want to do is to play the 12 or 14..cracked games on it (downloaded from *places which can be considered "seedy"*) but the main problem was that
some of these guys achieve something like played or not played these games,and for me i cannot even load my firmware to
back it up it freezes ,using ipodwizard-v1.3-release or v.1.2 and when i load 5.5.bin file to write to ipod it is always the same ERROR ..I was doing all this in disk mode whit aplle v.1.1 i've updated my ipod before working whit .rockbox
 
 So i give away the games, when i heard about the .rockbox thing i've read the manual over and over again so i decided to modify first whit manual instr. ,done ever. put ipod in disk mode,created "..rockbox"folder in root of my "O" Apple drive then use IpodPatcher 2.0 but it did not recognise my drive.."scaning disk devices..No Ipods Found,aborting, so i think to my self to give a try to rbutilqt-v1.0.2,i delete the folder ".rockbox" then start with the utility who install everything from web, exept the bootloader i've try Complete Inst/ then Small inst. nothing worked for me...
 
 So i think to my self this is not a usb cable problem beacuse i've upgraded allready ,transfer files a lot,rbutilqt-v1.0.2 installs everything exept bl etc., this is a firmware or software problem ,or beacuse i'm new to all this i think i have an
Ipod Video 80Gb 5.5g beacuse:
 
 Ipod Video 80Gb - it is Ipod whit 80gb disk,it plays video (this is very stupid) :-)
 5.5g - i've read somewhere that 5g dont have search menu under music main meni and i do
 
   Right Or Wrong Deathly ??!??
 
 This is everything i done whit my ipod for 4 days when i bought,i think it is sometnig very stupid small thing that i miss please help
 
   Thank U
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: GodEater on November 02, 2007, 12:16:50 PM
One question : What colour is your ipod? Black or White ? If it's neither - you don't own a 5.5G, or a 5G - but a "Classic" or 6G.

One statement : Do NOT use our forums to talk about obtaining pirated or cracked software.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: exx78 on November 02, 2007, 01:10:10 PM
Thanks for reply sorry for my post ..my ipod is black
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: exx78 on November 02, 2007, 01:24:17 PM
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=13217.0

 How should i know what is my ipod ,an old ipod video 30 or 80gb models ,or new ones ,i understand now that ipod video has became an ipod classic but how u make diference between 80gb models video & classic,i just bought the  thing so i assume that is classic or 6g?? but u ask me about my colour ??Me Going crazy
 
 
 
 Thanks
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: exx78 on November 02, 2007, 07:36:07 PM
Got it sorry for the problems :-)
 
  You can distinguish the iPod classic from the iPod (5th generation) by the last three digits of the serial number. The iPod classic serial number's last three digits will be one of the following: Y5N, YMU, YMV, and YMX.

 http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61688

 Mine is YMV
 
 Thank U .rockbox
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: GodEater on November 03, 2007, 02:05:58 PM
Which means of course you're out of luck - and Rockbox will not work on it. Sorry.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: rokk on November 08, 2007, 10:06:07 PM
Hello.
I'd like to uninstall the bootloader for rockbox and this is what came up when i ran te ipodpatcher
[INFO] /dev/disk3: Resource busy

Can anyone help?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: _djs on November 12, 2007, 08:04:57 AM
i know this might have already happened to someone else, but its late and right now i just want to know what happened if anyone can help~~

Ive got a 5.5 gen ipod 80g, and i installed rockbox manually (because the automatic way couldnt download rockbox/ and couldnt install the bootloader...dunno why). So after installing and what not i start up rockbox on my ipod, and im happy cos it works. i look through all the settings and stuff, but i havent done the disk initialization yet.

i find the alarm wake-up setting, which i find oh so fascinating and decide to set it to a couple minutes ahead. Then i turn it off, to see if it will turn on and play. i wait a couple of minutes and nothing happens. so i go to try and turn it on...nothing happens. which i assume means it is dead. and i can hear a constant clicking noise from it when i hold it to my ear ...(not sure if it was always there).

Would anyone be able to provide me some possible explanations or some way of reviving my ipod? would be great. thanks~~
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: GodEater on November 12, 2007, 08:21:22 AM
What does a hard reset do ?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: _djs on November 12, 2007, 08:49:45 AM
i searched up hard reset, and after trying the Menu+select combo for about 15mins, theres still no reaction. nothing coming up with very low battery or anything. and im not too keen on shorting the battery :S
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: GodEater on November 12, 2007, 09:50:14 AM
Did you try it with the "hold switch to on, hold switch to off" sequence beforehand ?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: _djs on November 12, 2007, 06:15:49 PM
yup, still no reaction. left it overnight put on the charger, and tried doing the hard reset again. but still nothing.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: concrete on November 22, 2007, 04:56:41 PM
Hi,

I installed Rockbox this evening, and my 3G iPod is stuck in a cycle whereby it starts the hard drive, shows the apple logo, then the Rockbox logo, then the Rockbox menu (so far, so good, I'm guessing), then it says "shutting down", then restarts, and so on...

Any ideas what I need to do?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Chronon on November 26, 2007, 04:42:14 PM
It sounds like you might have a hardware problem.  What happens if you switch the Hold switch on?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: pixelma on November 26, 2007, 06:34:05 PM
then it says "shutting down"
Does it mention a low battery?

I'm asking because I remember at least 3 people reporting similar issues on 3rd generation Ipods with current Rockbox builds but always mentioned getting the low battery warning splash before. The only currently available developer with this type of Ipod seems to be looking into it already but does not have a solution yet.

If that is what's happening for you, you could try older builds - unfortunately I'm not aware of the date or commit that broke it...
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: taelor on November 27, 2007, 03:02:58 AM
Hello. I have recently attempted to install rockbox on my 30 GB iPOD Video. The install itself seemed to go smoothly, but when I tried to start up mu ipod, I was greeted with the message: "Connect to you computer. Use itunes to restore." Beneath it there was text in several other languages which I presume to be translations of the above message. I am at a complete loss; I can not get the ipod to function. What should I do? Thanks in advance for any help that may be provided.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: GodEater on November 27, 2007, 05:27:49 AM
Well what happens when you tried what your iPod suggested you do ?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Chronon on November 27, 2007, 01:32:25 PM
then it says "shutting down"
Does it mention a low battery?

I'm asking because I remember at least 3 people reporting similar issues on 3rd generation Ipods with current Rockbox builds but always mentioned getting the low battery warning splash before. The only currently available developer with this type of Ipod seems to be looking into it already but does not have a solution yet.

If that is what's happening for you, you could try older builds - unfortunately I'm not aware of the date or commit that broke it...

I see that there was a commit today:
Quote
Disable low battery shutdown for the time being on iPod 3g until the battery reading strangeness is fixed.

concrete: See if this fixes the repetitive shutdown problem.  Although I still don't really see why the target should restart automatically.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: taelor on November 29, 2007, 09:43:36 PM
Well what happens when you tried what your iPod suggested you do ?

It connected to my computer normally. It mounted to the right place, and I was able to transfer songs to it. I am unable to use iTunes to "restore" it, though, as apple has yet to see fit to release itunes for linux.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: GodEater on November 30, 2007, 03:25:53 AM
I am unable to use iTunes to "restore" it, though, as apple has yet to see fit to release itunes for linux.

You don't need iTunes to restore it - we have a page in our wiki telling you how to do it from linux, the beauty of which is it leaves your music partition alone (unlike when iTunes does it, which wipes your entire music collection).

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodManualRestore
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: slyman on December 16, 2007, 09:34:25 PM
im pretty much having the same problem as djs i installed rockbox using the utility, turned my ipod on and everything was fine. i went to database it scanned for files the when it was done i went back to database it said reboot to use, so i turned it off and a small folder or something flashed on the screen and nothing it wont even go on if connected to my computer and the computer  wont recognize it.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: slyman on December 16, 2007, 09:38:35 PM
well i just did hold on - off then menu+select while connected to the pc and it worked
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: kevlarcupid on December 24, 2007, 11:59:50 PM
Good evening, guys and girls.

I just tried installing Rockbox using the utility on my iPod 5th Gen (512 byte-sectors). Everything seemed to go fine, but I get the "cannot load rockbox.ipod" error on starting the iPod. I'm using a Mac, so I double checked to make sure there's a .rockbox folder in the root of the iPod. There is. I deleted it, downloaded a new build, extracted it, and used cp -fv to move the .rockbox folder to my ipod. It worked, but I still get the error.

rockbox.ipod can be found in /.rockbox/ off the iPod root.

Advice?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: gen_werewolf on December 26, 2007, 03:51:55 AM
Hi, i'v got such a problam, i updated thru itunes firmware of ipod, and rockbox firmware stoped to boot, i tryed to delete completly rockbox and unzip new rockbox firmware6 but still ipod goes dtraight to it's own firmware ... how to fix it?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Pashy on December 26, 2007, 04:26:37 AM
reinstall the bootloader
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: kevlarcupid on December 27, 2007, 11:11:38 AM
Good evening, guys and girls.

I just tried installing Rockbox using the utility on my iPod 5th Gen (512 byte-sectors). Everything seemed to go fine, but I get the "cannot load rockbox.ipod" error on starting the iPod. I'm using a Mac, so I double checked to make sure there's a .rockbox folder in the root of the iPod. There is. I deleted it, downloaded a new build, extracted it, and used cp -fv to move the .rockbox folder to my ipod. It worked, but I still get the error.

rockbox.ipod can be found in /.rockbox/ off the iPod root.

Advice?

Any ideas?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Khala on January 04, 2008, 01:25:08 PM
Why not try manual?
Extract it, stick it into the root, then if you want, run ipodpatcher to make it so that rockbox boots by default

Quote
I installed Rockbox yesterday and now my iPod won't come on:

Most likely you ran down the battery. Let the thing charge for 4-5 hours and then try to turn it back on.

What if the ipod does not turn back on, even when plugged into the computer, is this normal?  I just recharged my ipod and it had full batteries, I think, but I just installed it.

Edit:

Also my ipod does not appear on the removable hardware list.

My ipod is nano, first generation 2gig white.

Doom and something else does no work for the plugins btw  ;)

I have modified your post to remove the annoying colours. - BigBambi
Title: ipod 5g in a boot 'loop', never gets recognized
Post by: btodd on January 14, 2008, 01:48:19 PM
not content with installing the world's best software alongside the original OS on my 30GB 5G Video, where it ran pretty much flawlessly, I decided to tweak up the _original_ OS with iPodwizard 1.3. Installed Classic for Video per instruction, restarted per instruction, and my baby starts the boot loop of death:

1) dim logo
2) bright logo
3) screen goes blank as disk spins down

repeat until battery is exhausted.

the boot is not going far enough to be recognized by the computer or (I think) understand what disk mode is so it can go into it (or at least it has resisted all my efforts to get it to do so). I was successful in getting it into diagnostic mode, and it passes all the tests. is there a way to have itunes recognize the ipod while in diagnostic mode so I can do a restore? or, alternatively, get it to boot the rest of the way into rockbox? or, alternatively, have the unit ignore all the OS and function as a drive so I can restore the original firmware backup?

I know this is my own fault and technically has nothing to do w RB, but I know that a lot of RB'ers use or have tried iPW. Have also posted there, but I have more faith in the RB knowledge base and hive mind...
Thanks
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: GodEater on January 14, 2008, 03:02:01 PM
If you've got the button timing down for getting into diagnostics mode, I'm surprised you're struggling with the disk mode - you need to do the button pushes for it at the same time as you've been doing the diagnostics ones. Keep trying.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: btodd on January 14, 2008, 04:23:25 PM
well, that's encouraging I guess! only stumbled across diagnostic mode in a wide ranging search - went in right away. meanwhile, have blisters on my thumbs from trying for disk mode. will persevere.
Title: the loop of death continues
Post by: btodd on January 15, 2008, 10:17:24 AM
ok, after another frustrating few hours...diagnostic mode works, disk mode just doesn't. is there anything _I_ can do - I am reluctant to crack it open, but if I need to get at the hard drive directly to effect repairs, I expect I will have to.

it seems weird - I thought the apple bootloader was in flash memory and not subject to rewriting, which would imply that I could in fact do _something_ to stop the loop so the computer could recognize and I could try to fix. :-[
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: GodEater on January 15, 2008, 01:10:58 PM
Which key shortcuts are you trying to get into disk mode with ?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Diversthree on January 22, 2008, 05:05:48 PM
Rockbox Error -1: or Can't load rockbox.ipod:File not found
You didn't read the manual properly.
Use winzip, or some other "unzip" program to extract the .zip file you downloaded from rockbox.org to your iPod. If your iPod connects to your PC as the "F:" drive, then unzip the file into "F:\"

Scince im rlly not good at any of this ad this is the problem i got i was hoping that you could dumb down ur solution a bit cuz im complelty lost
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Febs on January 22, 2008, 05:34:03 PM
Please note that our forum guidelines require you to use proper English.  We do not permit slang like "rlly" or "cuz."

The instructions that you quoted in the first part of your post are fairly self-explanatory.  If you're having trouble following them, then I would recommend that you instead try using the Rockbox Utility:

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/RockboxUtility#Download

Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: wejammin on February 20, 2008, 10:00:04 PM
apparently i unzipped the  ".rockbox" in wrong place, but now w/ that knowledge, the ipod wont show up on the computer when i plug it in. (if any help, windows xp and 1st gen nano) i cant even get the ipod to go to the regular firmware again (i tried the select+play thing, did not work). I read the Faq, but all it said was to do the select+play.  i will admit that i am retarded at this sort of thing, and i dont care if you make me a laughing stock. i dont know you. feel free to use strong language to get to the point and tell me where i screwed up.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: cool_walking_ on February 20, 2008, 11:54:12 PM
Flick the "hold" switch on and then off again.  Then hold select+menu.  This will reboot into the Apple firmware.

If the Apple firmware isn't working for some reason, repeat the above, but when the Apple logo comes up, hold select+play.  This will take you to the emergency disk mode.

Note that you may have to hold these buttons down for more than a minute to see the effect, though it's typically a couple of seconds.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: wejammin on February 21, 2008, 05:39:52 PM
thanks, it worked
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: fuboga on April 17, 2008, 04:08:35 PM
Hey, I have a nano and I've extracted .rockbox folder onto my ipod and i've also downloaded ipodpatcher as I'm trying to use the bootloader..

when i run ipodpatcher it just keeps saying the "no ipods found, aborting"

my ipod is clearly attached and is in disc mode and I can move files onto it, but it is not recognized by ipodpatcher

can anyone help me out with this?

I'm having the same problem, does anyone knows what could be happening?

thx
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Llorean on April 17, 2008, 04:11:21 PM
What iPod do you have?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: fuboga on April 17, 2008, 04:13:39 PM
Ipod video (aka 5.5g)
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Llorean on April 17, 2008, 04:14:21 PM
Are you 100% sure it's not a newer classic? What message, exactly, does iPodpatcher give?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: fuboga on April 17, 2008, 04:16:32 PM
[ERR] No ipods found, aborting

But acctualy it can be a newer version it's the ipod video 160gb do u know......
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: Llorean on April 17, 2008, 04:20:59 PM
Yes, the 160gb is the "iPod Classic" not the "iPod Video". Rockbox cannot run on this iPod.
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: fuboga on April 17, 2008, 04:21:34 PM
Oh! Thx even way......

It'll ever have one version for it, or there is no way for it function?
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: zajacattack on April 17, 2008, 06:00:04 PM
The port to the Classic is moving slow due to the highly encrypted firmware.

You can check on progress at:
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=14871.0
Title: Re: The "My ipod install went wrong" Thread. **Updated 6th Aug 2007**
Post by: GodEater on April 18, 2008, 06:48:12 AM
The port to the Classic is moving slow due to the highly encrypted firmware.

To be honest, I don't think it's even fair to say there *is* a port. No-one is doing any work on this that we're aware of.