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Title: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: kyin01 on October 15, 2008, 05:32:36 PM
Are you a '1 big folder' or a super neat freak and have a system of folders?




For me, I have it folders by genre, but very general genre. Like for example a Rock folder and all kinds of rock goes into that folder. From metal rock to indie rock. And so on, but than i find some songs that are completely in between 2 genre so this system isn't working out.
So instead I have this new set up with 4 Folders (followed by subfolders)
-Alpha (Folders A-Z each artist alphabetized going in their correct folder)
-NOW (new songs i want to listen to that I will sort when it gets old)
-Soundtrack (soundtrack folder)
-Compilations (a folder for artist where I only have a few songs and too little to put in my alpha folder)



What's your set up?
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: karashata on October 15, 2008, 05:40:13 PM
I have mine sorted either by artist, then album (in the case of "normal" music), or by game series, then each game in that series (in the case of all my game soundtracks).

My filing system isn't exactly consistent, but it's organized how I like it and how I can find everything and keep related things together.
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: Chronon on October 15, 2008, 07:18:23 PM
With a couple of exceptions (like compilations and video game music) I use this structure:

Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: cool_walking_ on October 15, 2008, 08:57:16 PM
Similar to the others, I use <artist>/<year> <album>/<track> - <title>.<ext>, with mostly inconsistent exceptions for comedy/audiobooks/soundtracks.

*Years* ago I used to have 1 big folder populated by the single tracks, but once you pass the 1000 song mark, it becomes apparent that something better is needed.  Now I mostly have full albums, and with over 600 artists, organisation is pretty important.  I could still do it better though >_>
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: ThaCrip on October 15, 2008, 11:51:58 PM
well i have mine setup like this...

in root of my Sansa e250 i have a folder called 'OGG Music' which contains ALL my music which has folders for each artist and the name of that particular album.

plus i use a free application called 'Mp3Tag' to label (basically change the tag data so it appears proper in Rockbox ;) ) all my songs (.ogg files) by artist/year/cd name etc etc ... so it stays professional ;)

and in general when playing my music i usually use the 'database' > 'artist' and then select whatever artist i want to listen to at that time.
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: AlexP on October 16, 2008, 03:12:26 AM
Audio
      Artist
            Album
                  tracknumber - title
Classical
      Composer
            Album
                  tracknumber - title

Spoken Word
      Author
            Book
                  tracknumber - title

Spoken Word also includes radio stuff etc. as
Spoken Word
      Show
            Episode
                  tracknumber - title

I just use the file tree, not the database.
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: Daveybaby on October 16, 2008, 07:34:06 AM
This is how my audio files are organised on my PC:

- Music
    - Artist
        - Album

- Comedy
    - Artist
        - Album

- Audiobooks
    - Author
        - Book

I use drag & drop in MSC mode to move stuff onto my player (sansa e280), and tend to lump music, comedy etc together when theyre actually on the player, i.e. it all goes in the MUSIC folder.
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: LambdaCalculus on October 16, 2008, 08:41:29 AM
With some exceptions for radio plays, audiobooks, and some computer and video game music, my arrangement is:

- Music
   - Artist
       - Album
           - track number - title

My game music is:

- Game
    - tracknumber - title

Stuff like the High Voltage SID Collection has its own folder, and radio plays are arranged as:

- Series title
     - Episode
         - (all tracks here)
 
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: dreamlayers on October 16, 2008, 11:32:53 AM
Typically for albums:
\Genre\Album\##-Title
If I have several albums by that artist then:
\Genre\Album\Artist\##-Title
An album with tracks by various artists:
  Album\## - Track Artist - Title
I'm very satisfied with the album part of the scheme.

I group some individual tracks into
\Genre\Individual Tracks\
or if more by one artist
\Genre\Individual Tracks\Artist\
or
\Genre\Artist\Individual Tracks\
I'm not entirely satisfied with this part.

If I have more music in a genre, the genre grouping uses a more specific label.  If I have less, it is grouped with others under a more general label.  Some genres just go into "other".  I am satisfied with this part; it's better than grouping by ID3 genre.




Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: spike66 on October 16, 2008, 11:55:57 AM
With some exceptions for radio plays, audiobooks, and some computer and video game music, my arrangement is:

- Music
   - Artist
       - Album
           - track number - title


Just a little addition to that for albums that have various artists:

- Music
   - Artist
       - Album
           - track number - title
   -  Compilations
       -  compilations series name (like "Buddha Bar", "Now That's What I Call Music", etc)
            - Album
                - track number - title


Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: MajiKool Dragonâ„¢ on October 16, 2008, 06:58:28 PM
if it's a full album i sort it by album(and then disc if the album has multiple) artist name before album name in the folder name.
if its just a bunch of songs from one artist then i sort it by artist
otherwise i just "throw" it in the music folder ;D

there are a few exceptions.

so basically:

- Music
   - "Artist - Album"
      - "Track"
   - "Artist - Album"
      - "Disc"
         - "Track"
   - "Album Collection"(in this case "Halo Official Soundtracks")(this would be an example of an exception)
      - "Album/Soundtrack"
         - "Disc"
            - "Track"
   - "Artist"
      - "Track"
   etc...
   - "Track"
   etc...
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: soap on October 16, 2008, 07:26:33 PM
Music:
/Artist - Year - Album/TrackNo - Title

Comedy & Audiobooks:
/Artist/Album/TrackNo - Title

Podcasts:
/Show/Date - Title

Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: talos321 on October 18, 2008, 12:54:36 AM
Music\Artist\ (Year) Album\01- Song title
Audiobook\Name of Book.mp3
Radio Show\Date-Subject (txt file matching name explaining whom is speaking and other info)

I never use Genre with music as that labeling is pretty vague when I get a Heavy Metal album with a popish tune in the middle or an Adult Contemporary like ballad.
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: Zardoz on October 18, 2008, 10:25:59 AM
Music
       Collaborations
                          Artists
                                 Album (Year)
                                                  Track no. - Title
       Compilations
                        'Type'
                              Album
                                     Track no. - Artist - Title
                        Series Name
                              Album
                                     Track no. - Artist - Title
       Singles
                'Decade'
                          Artist - Title
       A......Z
             Artist
                    Album (Year)
                                     Track no. - Title
                           
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: dementio on October 19, 2008, 01:41:28 AM
As far as my music goes, it's:
\Music\<Artist>\<Album>\<Track> - <Title>.<ext>

I also have a podcast folder that those are just thrown into and replaced as updated; and an audiobook folder for my books.
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: RenatoN on October 19, 2008, 08:35:13 PM
Here how I do it.

Music
         A-F
            Artist
                Year-Album
                       Track#-Title
         G-M
              Artist
                Year-Album
                       Track#-Title
          N-S
              Artist
                Year-Album
                       Track#-Title
          T-Z
              Artist
                Year-Album
                       Track#-Title

I put compilations into a "Various" Folder

Renato
   
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: Chronon on October 20, 2008, 01:03:56 AM
Music\Artist\ (Year) Album\01- Song title
Audiobook\Name of Book.mp3
Radio Show\Date-Subject (txt file matching name explaining whom is speaking and other info)

I never use Genre with music as that labeling is pretty vague when I get a Heavy Metal album with a popish tune in the middle or an Adult Contemporary like ballad.


I agree.  I think genre should be a per track attribute.
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: cool_walking_ on October 20, 2008, 02:16:25 AM
Also, I think most music comes under multiple genres.  Classifications like "doom/drone/death/avant-garde/post-rock/psychedelic" aren't uncommon.

Okay maybe they are.. I think I threw too many in there... how about "doom drone sludge psychedelic post-rock"?
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: Sherv on October 20, 2008, 10:11:33 AM
I have a similar system to your older system of organization:

Root directory has:

-= Playlists =-
MP3s
Podcasts
Uploads (a vestigial name from when I used to run an FTP server, now it just houses the recent rips I've made)

In MP3s I have the following folders:

Anime & Movie soundtracks
Bootlegs & Demos
Choral & Classical
Electronic
Ethnic
Fusion
Hardcore, Heavy Metal, & Industrial
Humor, Interviews & Miscellaneous
Indie
Jazz
Nostalgia
Punk Rock & Ska
Rap & Hip-Hop
Rock, Alternative, & Pop
Video Game

I don't use the Genre tag but I may start soon...I find that most music fits under these folders, with "Fusion" being a total cop out :P

For me, I have it folders by genre, but very general genre. Like for example a Rock folder and all kinds of rock goes into that folder. From metal rock to indie rock. And so on, but than i find some songs that are completely in between 2 genre so this system isn't working out.
So instead I have this new set up with 4 Folders (followed by subfolders)
-Alpha (Folders A-Z each artist alphabetized going in their correct folder)
-NOW (new songs i want to listen to that I will sort when it gets old)
-Soundtrack (soundtrack folder)
-Compilations (a folder for artist where I only have a few songs and too little to put in my alpha folder)



What's your set up?
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: Zardoz on October 20, 2008, 12:31:47 PM
I think I threw too many in there... how about "doom drone sludge psychedelic post-rock"?

That pretty much describes Sunn O))) to me!
But yea genres are silly for the most part. I try to avoid using them and put in the country of origin and the year instead.
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: cool_walking_ on October 20, 2008, 09:19:25 PM
The first attempt was just me pulling genres out of my ass so for the second one I had Boris in mind.  Can't blame you for thinking Sunn O))) - I probably could have added some more genres to narrow it down to Boris.

I think genres could be useful, you just need to be able to assign an arbitrary amount of them to any given song, which of course you can't represent in the filesystem unless you use one that supports hard or soft links.  I'd probably use the database if it supported multiple genres.

I think I'm going to have to add an A-Z layer in my structure because it's getting to be a pain in the ass scrolling through all the artists.
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: Zardoz on October 21, 2008, 08:05:56 AM
Boris rock my world. I consider them Japanese craziness genre
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: mad on October 21, 2008, 08:33:49 AM
always file/folder
genre
         artist - album
                               track
         artist with more than 2 albums
                     album
                               track
         
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: szteto on October 21, 2008, 01:52:05 PM
I still use itunes :P
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: GodEater on October 21, 2008, 02:05:09 PM
Which is of course your right ;)
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: LambdaCalculus on October 21, 2008, 02:07:50 PM
There's no right or wrong with Rockbox. As long as there's music on your player, it's all good. ;)
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: bascule on October 27, 2008, 11:59:12 AM
Mine's very flat. In my 'Audio' folder I have:
ArtistName-AlbumName / ##-TrackName

And in a podcast folder I just have a bunch of un-listened-to podcasts and radio rips. As I listen to them, they get deleted...
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: NorTheBear on October 31, 2008, 01:15:31 PM
About one year ago I changed my entire structure
from 3 levels

ArtistName  /  AlbumName  /  ## TrackName

down to 2 levels (like bascule)

ArtistName - AlbumName  /  ## TrackName

taking the fact into account that I seldom own more than one album of the same music formation.

I found that especially Jazz albums and Classic albums are very hard to categorize anyway.
Jazz musicians tend to play in different formations, so who shall be named first given the fact that the musicians are on a par?
With classic music it is sometimes not easy to decide if you want to have the files sorted after the the composer (say Bach) or the interpreter (say Glenn Gould).
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: Daveybaby on November 03, 2008, 07:18:42 AM
The genre tag can be very useful, particularly because it's so personal what you call something. You dont have to conform to any rules, just tag the music in a way that means something to you.

I use it to group music so that i dont have to faff around generating playlists etc. If i want to listen to a random selection of (say) chill out music i can browse to that genre and then play all the tracks in that genre (randomised of course).

Doing this by genre beats playlists hands-down IMO because as you add and remove tracks from your player youre going to have to update your playlists to handle that, but if you tag your music by genre then no need to bother.
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: Sherv on November 06, 2008, 12:58:44 PM
Man, getting a consistent list of genres down is impossible for me :(

Sure, it's easy distinguish between ska and punk, but some bands tread right in between...

Then with electronic music, I still don't know the difference between house or D&B or trance or IDM...so I tried to tag some spastic Autechre songs with "Acid" and more mellow Amon Tobin tracks with "D&B" but then I ended up with something like 50 genres!
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: Daveybaby on November 10, 2008, 09:03:26 AM
Bugger consistency. Nobody else is going to be going through your record collection critiquing your choice of genre tags, so why worry?

The thing is to not get too anal about it. Group them in genres by whether theyre the sort of thing youre going to want to listen to if youre in a certain sort of mood. Think of it like this: If youre in the mood to listen to some ska, then would that track be the sort of thing you'd want to listen to? Sure there's going to be some overlaps here and there, but... life's too short to worry about that.

I have *tons* of dance music. Subdividing this by genre is a nightmare, so most of it i just tag as 'dance'. Some more 'hed-kandi-ish' stuff gets labelled as 'house'. Most of the ambient stuff gets labelled as 'ambient', and some of the less dancey electronic music gets labelled as 'electronic'. Job done - now i can choose what to play depending on whether i want to jump up and down or chill out. Most of my guitar music gets labelled as 'rock' regardless of whether that's pixies or the doors.

Having said that, there's no inherent problem with having 50 genres. It's all down to personal choice IMO which is what's so great about it.
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: Sherv on November 10, 2008, 04:48:43 PM
You got it, man! I guess I should approach it from the "mood" perspective. The utility of genres, for me, comes in that form; when I wish to listen to the music which, to me, is punk, it'll be much easier to just choose that genre as opposed to creating a playlist and hunting for the right tuneage.

Hmm...something to think about!
Title: Re: How do you have your rockbox music library set up / organized?
Post by: TexasRockbox on November 11, 2008, 09:53:54 PM
Artist
  ##-Album (in chronological order)
     ##-Song Title

I like having the albums in chroniclogical order that way the first Beatles album is "Please, Please Me" rather than "Abbey Road".