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Title: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: daveky on December 19, 2007, 01:58:33 PM
Hia all. My iriver h320 died. I'm looking at a (refurbished) 5th Generation ipod video on ebay that ends shortly.

Would that be OK to run rock box (The build for ipod video does not specify a generation)?

Will I be able to copy files directly to it via usb (as a hard drive) without all that fecking about with itunes?

Any other warning and advice appreciated. Hurry!
Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: mophead on December 19, 2007, 02:01:03 PM
Is it an ipod video? if it is, it is good 4 rockbox
Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: LambdaCalculus on December 19, 2007, 02:01:59 PM
The 5th Generation iPod is the iPod video. Purchase!

To answer your questions: yes, Rockbox runs very well on the iPod video, and yes, you can use it as a regular USB device. Drag and drop, baby... drag and drop.

And if it's not too much to ask, daveky... what happened with your iriver?
Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: daveky on December 19, 2007, 02:08:07 PM
Ah super. Thanks for the replies. I hate the idea of itunes and I DID use my h320 so much at work for moving big files about. I couldn't have something that didn't fullfil that purpose. And all my music is in ogg vorbis format too!

@LambdaCalculus379: I may well do. It's currently at £50 delivered!

@mophead: 5th gen == video. Good. But tt seems there was more than one version of the 5th gen ipod with later ones a having a brighter screen. I shall have to be carefull. Would rockbox care about that?
Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: LambdaCalculus on December 19, 2007, 02:10:05 PM
No, Rockbox will happily run on the 5.5G iPod video (which is what the later videos were dubbed). My iPod is a 30GB 5.5G, running Rockbox as we speak.
Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: daveky on December 19, 2007, 02:14:45 PM
Whoohoo. That's what I wanted to hear.

I'm getting all excited now. I'm having a bit of a pre-auction end heart-flutter. My head is saying. "Stay away, it's refurbished!" and "Wait till after Christmas, they'll be cheaper." But what the heck, eh?

Your advice will still stand then I take it? These ipod things keep changing all the time! ;D
Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: LambdaCalculus on December 19, 2007, 02:17:58 PM
As long as it's not the new iPod Classic (which has an aluminum front and metal backing), and it's most certainly a video (black or white plastic front and metal back), then Rockbox awaits! :)

What are you going to do with your iriver in the meantime?
Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: daveky on December 19, 2007, 02:26:52 PM
@LambdaCalculus379: stop mentioning my iriver! I begin to cry. Oh, there I go... sniff. I got quite attached. Only had it two years.

On charging it got hot. Screen did not got to "charging". Got stuck on boot half way through rockbox with a whirring and clicking disk. Thought it was a ballooning battery but it shows no signs (I was getting 8+ hours from 17mAh).

The PCB shows slight signs of burning. So it looks like it fried. but I DIDN'T put in the wrong charger. I am really miffed. I've taken advice and read all the forums on misticriver but there does not seem to be a solution.

As a second hand h320's are going on ebay from £80-£180 (yeah, I know!) I started looking at anything else that will run the beloved rockbox.
Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: daveky on December 19, 2007, 02:29:45 PM
10 mins left. £55 delivered. What's should be my top limit then...? Decisions, decisions. (There are are three or four due in the next couple of hours too.)
Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: LambdaCalculus on December 19, 2007, 02:36:21 PM
daveky: I only asked about your iriver to see if maybe it would've been a simple fix that we could've easily guided you though. But a burnt board? Either sell it for parts or send it off to be recycled, and make a bid on the iPod!
Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: daveky on December 19, 2007, 02:45:31 PM
Thanks for your caring thought. I wish it was that easy. I'm still hoping it can be repaired but from what I've been able to work out it can only be the board. Thing is it still tries to boot but gets stuck. And it's gets red hot if you try to charge it right at the bit of the board that everyone says gets burned out.

There's a picture of my board on misticriver
http://www.misticriver.net/forums/iriver-h1xx-series/44799-repair-fried-players-maybe-possible-5.html#post583972

I let the ipod go at £90. Silly money for refurbished. It may have to wait till after Christmas after all. :(
Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: LambdaCalculus on December 19, 2007, 02:57:28 PM
If you still really, really want to have a DAP that's supported by Rockbox, why not search for a Gigabeat F on eBay? They come a dime a dozen, and are very very easy on the budget. :)
Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: daveky on December 19, 2007, 03:05:59 PM
ahaha... As I have some more time to research (no major ebay panic) I've started to trawl the forums for more info. I've seen you recommend the gigabeat a lot. Are you on commission? :D How many mp3 players have you got? Did you ever get an h320 to play with (ie Roadster's)? (See. I HAVE been reading...)

I just looked; there are none. Boo hiss.

Another ipod just went for £85. darn. It's just too much. One more this evening though...
Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: LambdaCalculus on December 19, 2007, 03:11:22 PM
Don't I wish I were on commision? ;D In reality, I'm just another Rockbox user like you are, learning the ins and outs of this wonderful open source project.

My personal DAPs are my iPod, a Sansa c240 with a 1GB microSD card, and my Archos Jukebox Recorder. My girlfriend has her own H320. I'm going to end up with an iPod color after the holidays, so that'll make 4 DAPs.

I really want to get either a Gigabeat or iAUDIO X5, but the X5's are rare as hen's teeth, and holiday shopping prevented me from getting the Gigabeat I wanted. But there's always next year... :)
Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: daveky on December 19, 2007, 03:22:44 PM
Hmm, yes. Silly me. It says so in your signature. And I was about to ask which ipod you have too. Doh! I'm tired...

I think I'll stick with an ipod. Only because there are so many of them that the price should be less and ongoing rockbox support more readily available. Unless I can find a good h320, of course.

Oh no! I'm turning into a DAP geek. You mentioned your girlfriend but my attention was peaked by her working h320...  :P ;) :-[ (sometimes just one 'ckle man just isn't enough, is it?)

Thanks for the timely help and chat. I'm off to restore the balance by watching Die Hard...
Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: daveky on December 19, 2007, 03:38:30 PM
Oh, blimey. just realised the ipod doesn't have a radio. No! I need a rethink. Grr.
Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: AlexP on December 19, 2007, 09:00:55 PM
And nor does the gigabeat F.  Check out the BuyersGuide page in the wiki, it may help you.
Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: psycho_maniac on December 19, 2007, 10:13:37 PM
I would still pick a Gigabeat over a Ipod 5g any day of the week but thats just me :)
Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: cool_walking_ on December 19, 2007, 11:45:05 PM
Who needs a radio?  I haven't heard anything good on the radio in yonks.  It's all mainstream pop and hip-hop tripe.  The only good things they play are the classics, and since they are *classics*, I already have them all ripped...

I haven't used a Gigabeat for comparison, but I lesser-than three my Rockboxed iPod 5.5G.  I find the scroll wheel very convenient to use.  It's one of the slowest targets for video playback (not counting the Apple OF), but it's still completely watchable at 12 FPS fullscreen.
Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: scharkalvin on December 20, 2007, 09:01:02 AM
The Gigabeat has the fastest cpu of all the players that support rockbox.
It has the fastest video frame rate support and the highest quality real time support of Monkey Audio.  Battery life (play time) is very good too.  Only thing it lacks is a radio.  But you can always buy a cheap Sansa and only use it for the radio, they're so small you can carry both if need be.  There have been a lot of bargins on Gigabeat F's on Ebay these past few weeks.  F10's for $70, F20's for $80 and F40's for $90-100 ... and these have been grade "A" reconditioned units too (in the original packing).  

Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: LambdaCalculus on December 20, 2007, 09:12:20 AM
Even though I would really like to get my mitts on an iAUDIO X5, I can't afford to spend the nearly $300 USD that many eBay sellers are asking. So I may end up getting a Gigabeat F after the holidays.
Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: psycho_maniac on December 20, 2007, 10:06:05 AM
I have used a Gigabeat for comparison to the ipod 5g and the ipod5g is very slow. I dont even use my ipod anymore.
Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: cool_walking_ on December 20, 2007, 06:34:38 PM
I have used a Gigabeat for comparison to the ipod 5g and the ipod5g is very slow. I dont even use my ipod anymore.

Slow in what way? Do you just mean video and APE?
Title: Re: Quick! Advise me before the ebay auction ends!
Post by: psycho_maniac on December 20, 2007, 06:42:46 PM
Video and even the new Plugin  PictureFlow