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Support and General Use => Theming and Appearance Customization => Topic started by: denny on May 02, 2007, 04:28:09 PM

Title: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 02, 2007, 04:28:09 PM
Hi everyone.

I'm interested in taking on the challenge of creating a new default WPS for rockbox and so far I have come up with this:

*EDIT* see later posts for more up to date versions.

Its based off of a theme I completed for the 220x176 (h300, ipod 4g) targets, DGT. This layout was chosen as it seems easy to port to all the different targets.

I would just like some feedback on the concept above (anything at all). At present the only icons are for the battery and I would like to keep it that way on most targets so that it is as minimal as possible, and quick to load. Shuffle and repeat status are shown on the bottom highlight line in text. The backdrop is not set and the one here is just a quickly thrown together one, though it looks quite nice...

Cheers,
Denny.

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*edit: changes to be made*

'of' to be replaced by '/'
add clock on top line
add virtual HD light
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: elborak on May 02, 2007, 04:42:46 PM
Nice.  I'm a big supporter of a clean display with a good sized font (I'd rather have less info but easier to read as a tradeoff).  This fits the bill nicely.

My only (small) suggestion from a quick look is that I don't care for the volume in the middle of the progress area.  It would seem more consistant to have it either at the top or the bottom.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 02, 2007, 04:45:38 PM
Yeah, I'm definitely aiming for less clutter and a large font and have toyed with the idea of swapping the position of the shuffle and repeat status (from the bottom) with the volume in the middle. Might take another look at that. Thanks for your input.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: perfectdrug on May 02, 2007, 06:43:45 PM
I'm not absolutely sure but i think the "of" between the number of the current song and the numer of all songs isn't good because of the multilingual support of rockbox

and i would like a unique backdrop which is perfectly useable for all targets. one which looks good in color, and for the greyscale targets in grey, so that the only devices without a backdrop are the mono ones.

and one other thing
i personally don't care about the next song info so i would like to see some other information on this line

but the tiny batterysymbol looks really good and the progressbar also :)
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 02, 2007, 06:57:40 PM
Ah, good point about the 'of'. That was part of the code stolen from my other wps. It will be replaced with a slash.

The backdrop will most likely be blank on greyscale targets, or very minimal, to improve clarity, and I'll probably create a similar but improved backdrop for the colour targets.

The next track line is one that I will not sacrifice as it seems to be a fairly commonly used feature and is one that I personally like alot.

Thanks for the input :)
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: thenrik on May 02, 2007, 07:02:00 PM
I'm likewise a fan of clean, easy to read, themes. Likewise a slightly larger font would make it even better.  Have you tested it for readability in the sun?

It's clear and already gives the user the requisite information they need: name of song, time elapsed, time left etc.

Increase the default screen dim out time and it will make a huge difference--it looks like a mp3 display.

Great job.

You'll never be able to please everyone. I like the next song info while perfectdrug doesn't. We need a basic set. Perhaps you might include instructions for customization?

Again if the average user loads Rockbox and up comes your theme, it's something approachable.

Tom
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 02, 2007, 07:10:29 PM
I'm likewise a fan of clean, easy to read, themes. Likewise a slightly larger font would make it even better.  Have you tested it for readability in the sun?

It's clear and already gives the user the requisite information they need: name of song, time elapsed, time left etc.

Increase the default screen dim out time and it will make a huge difference--it looks like a mp3 display.

Great job.

You'll never be able to please everyone. I like the next song info while perfectdrug doesn't. We need a basic set. Perhaps you might include instructions for customization?

Again if the average user loads Rockbox and up comes your theme, it's something approachable.

Tom

Thanks for the complements :).

It is yet to be tested outside, but that will come into what the backdrop ends up looking like. I had thought about using a larger size 14 font but as a trade off ended up with size 12. Targets with larger screens will have much larger fonts.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: lights0ut on May 02, 2007, 07:17:55 PM
Gotta agree with what is being said here, I'm also a fan of a clear, concise layout and this is what you have accomplished here. It does look very portable so i hope you have an easy time with that, one thought though, maybe you could add the time for RTC targets? (just hrs and min), and maybe a bit larger progress bar would be nice.

I like how you came up with a WPS that suites any backdrop, gives the user a chance to try out some quick and easy customizations. Maybe you could include 3 or 4 different backdrops that look good just to try out.

Nice work, keep it up ;)
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 02, 2007, 07:29:00 PM
I'll try out a clock on the top highlighted line. hadn't thought about that, thanks!. Initially i had a large glass type progress bar but the minimal single pixel one seemed to be just as easy to see and took up less room.

I don't know what the rules are on multiple backdrops in daily builds. I think it would be considered as bloating so may not be possible.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: Yotto on May 02, 2007, 09:42:57 PM
I like the theme as well.  My only nitpick is that the battery at the very top appears out of place  Instead of being over the %, I'd put it to the right of it.  Saves a line too.

As to the multiple backdrop, I'd add a readme text file with easy changes you can make. Not everybody will ever see it, but the curious will (I would have :) )
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 03, 2007, 10:10:20 AM
I like the theme as well.  My only nitpick is that the battery at the very top appears out of place  Instead of being over the %, I'd put it to the right of it.  Saves a line too.

Thanks. Just had a go at some different arrangements with the battery and the top bar. for now I'm going to keep it how it is, but with a different/better fitting battery meter. Everything looked out of place when I altered it :(.


As to the multiple backdrop, I'd add a readme text file with easy changes you can make. Not everybody will ever see it, but the curious will (I would have)


I'll see about sorting something like that out when I get more targets sorted methinks.

Cheers.



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*edit*

Update:

This is a revised version of the concept:

Image removed, see later for complete version

Now has a clock on the first line and a smaller battery icon that fits in better. A virtual HD light is also ther now but i could not work out how to make it light in the sim.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: NicolasP on May 03, 2007, 12:16:30 PM
Does the line underneath the volume and time info indicate the next track ? If so, I think it should say so.
Apart from that, I like the theme... Nice and clean :)
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: bluebrother on May 03, 2007, 12:27:25 PM
looks quite nice, but have you tried it on greyscale targets? I really would be interested in that :)
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 03, 2007, 12:53:41 PM
Does the line underneath the volume and time info indicate the next track ? If so, I think it should say so.
Apart from that, I like the theme... Nice and clean

I have been trying to think of something to use to indicate that it means the next track. I'm not sure about using text for this as it would not be useful to foreign language users. I'll have a go at making an icon to illustrate that its the next track. Thanks!

looks quite nice, but have you tried it on greyscale targets? I really would be interested in that

A grey scale version is on the way :). I have a h140 I can test things on so it wont be long.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: elborak on May 03, 2007, 01:20:15 PM
I still don't care for the volume being in the middle of the display. Everything else which indicates the status of the DAP (as opposed to the status of the song being played or the next song to be played) is at the top. Why an exception for the volume?

It just seems very out of place.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 03, 2007, 03:12:35 PM
I still don't care for the volume being in the middle of the display. Everything else which indicates the status of the DAP (as opposed to the status of the song being played or the next song to be played) is at the top. Why an exception for the volume?

It just seems very out of place.

Trying to replace the volume is quite difficult while trying to keep things looking good. That's the only reason it was in the middle before.

This is as best as I could do with repositioning the volume:

Image removed, see later for complete version.

Now top and bottom are player status. Middle is song status. The next arrow is not the best, I know. Icons for shuffle repeat and hold will now be placed on the top dark bar.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: elborak on May 03, 2007, 04:29:57 PM
I do prefer this layout to the original. And I see nothing wrong with the next arrow.

And I do admit that we're now getting into the realm of very minor personal preference issues. You'll never get a 100% consensus on exactly what should be placed where. The main things are the background, font, and basic layout and those look good, at least at this resolution.

I also think it's important that the default theme have a very clean .wps file, preferably heavily commented. This will be the starting point for many folks to tweak and customize so making things as easy as possible is critical.  And with the WPS tokenizer, there's no real performance penalty to a heavily commented .wps file.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 03, 2007, 04:51:28 PM
Thanks for the input elborak. I agree that the new layout is better. I've also decided to drop the text shuffle and repeat status for icons:

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y196/truedenny/dump070503-214624.png)

The .wps will contain comments on what each line/section is as well as a web address for the customwps wiki page.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: perfectdrug on May 03, 2007, 06:08:59 PM
it looks very good now
so only minor thing that i can think of is that the symbols for shuffle and repeat mode are a little bit too big compared to the battery or the clock symbol
a little bit tinier would be acceptable too
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 03, 2007, 06:35:53 PM
I might have a go at making the symbols smaller.

At the moment this is what I am going to use for the 220x176 targets. Possible with a modified background but the one used in the screens above has grown on me and its nice and simple.

I'm currently re-sizing it for the 160x128 targets and its going well. Screenshots to follow shortly. :D

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I also have a question for anyone in the know. I am currently planning on using the chicago12 font at it fits better on small screens than nimbus-12. Now, its been removed from the default fonts so is it still OK to use this font? It will be included with the 160x128 WPSs.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: lights0ut on May 03, 2007, 07:49:28 PM
I *think* there are some licensing issues with the chicago font (i.e. non-GPL) and I think this would be pretty important for a default wps. Hope you can make things work with nimbus or something. btw, will you be using a larger font on the iPod? (nimbus 19?) very nice work on the shuffle/repeat buttons. I like where this theme is going, keep it up ;)
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 03, 2007, 08:10:05 PM
I saw the licensing problems in the default theme thread. Still hoping for a nimbus 13 now...

I'll be using a much larger font on the 5g and the gigabeats, and probably different/improved graphics.

Thanks  :)
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 04, 2007, 04:14:10 PM
I've nearly finished porting to all the colour targets but I think i need to find a good 13pt font befor i can finish. Here's a screen of the ipod 5g version (still needs a few finishing touches):

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y196/truedenny/5g.png)

And the complete 220x176 theme:

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y196/truedenny/h300.png)
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: Viljark on May 04, 2007, 04:56:45 PM
Theme is really nice. Is there going to be a version for iPod nano too? I mean for 176x132 resolution.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: elborak on May 04, 2007, 05:00:50 PM
He's working on it as a candidate for the new default theme, so by definition it will be ported to all platforms/resolutions.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 04, 2007, 05:36:10 PM
Yep, a version for the nano is almost complete. This is going allot quicker than planned  ;D.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 05, 2007, 12:31:18 PM
OK, two versions are now available for download.

160x128:

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIaudioX5#Ultima

Thanks to pixelma for providing the reduced nimbus font :)

220x176:

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIriverH300#Ultima

IZArc was playing up so the archive must be extracted within .rockbox. Sorry about this.

Please let me know what you think.

Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: bluebrother on May 05, 2007, 12:40:32 PM
I really like it. Now I'm waiting for the greyscale versions, hope they will be as good (especially H100 and Ipod mini, as these are my greyscale targets ;)
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 05, 2007, 02:07:29 PM
Thanks. Here's an early version of the 160x128 greyscale version. The other greyscale targets will have a similar layout.

(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y196/truedenny/h100.png)

Also, I've not yet made an RWPS but its on the way.


Scrap that. A version for the h100's is now available here:

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIriverH100#Ultima

After using this for a while on my h140 I think I will revise the background.

A 4g ipod version is on the way.

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Known bugs:

Battery level animation when charging is wrong.
'charging...' to be replaced with AC
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: mannequin on May 05, 2007, 05:55:47 PM
i think it came out lovely. really nice work.

can't wait to see the gigabeat version of this as the minimal themes like this always suffer from the amount of free space.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: dunno on May 06, 2007, 04:47:01 AM
I don't think that the total track time should be placed after the Album name,
because...
1). it appears to be a part of the Album name, rendering the album name unclear.
2). keeping all the track times, elapsed and remaining below the progress bar is nice, efficient, and user friendly.
3). If elapsed time and remaining time is displayed then there is no need to display the total time after the albums name.

otherwise its nice, simple, uncluttered, and easy to read the important info at a glance.

My two cents worth...
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 06, 2007, 07:41:08 AM
Yes I like this WPS on my H140 too - just one little niggle from the "units police", can you replace 'db' with the correct abbreviation 'dB'? I think that goes for all the other versions of this WPS too...

Edit: One thing regarding the RWPS which I would prefer to be changed is to have the Track Name [length] on the first line on its own and have the Artist : Album on the second line (or better still have Artist/Album alternating) rather than have things the way you have them now. What do you think?

I didn't know i was abbreviating it wrong hehe. I'll change that in the final version. Good idea with the rwps. Should probably have mentioned that the rwps itself is not very complete. I'll certainly have a look at redoing it how you have described as that makes more sense.

I don't think that the total track time should be placed after the Album name,
because...
1). it appears to be a part of the Album name, rendering the album name unclear.
2). keeping all the track times, elapsed and remaining below the progress bar is nice, efficient, and user friendly.
3). If elapsed time and remaining time is displayed then there is no need to display the total time after the albums name.

otherwise its nice, simple, uncluttered, and easy to read the important info at a glance.

My two cents worth...

At the moment total track time is placed next to the track name on the main screen and the rwps needs re-doing. I'll certainly see about removing this on players where I have both current and remaining time.

Thanks for the feedback  :)

One question though. I'm planning to re-do the backdrop on the h100 version because i found the black text hard to read on the light grey (it looks alot different to the sim screenshots). Has anybody else had the same experience?
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: bluebrother on May 06, 2007, 08:08:09 AM
One question though. I'm planning to re-do the backdrop on the h100 version because i found the black text hard to read on the light grey (it looks alot different to the sim screenshots). Has anybody else had the same experience?
Yes -- the h100 lcd is quite different from the sim (and on my player, the greyscales differ slightly depending on the position on the lcd)
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 06, 2007, 08:18:38 AM
Ah, just had a look at that and I'll stick an extra line or two on. Due to the international nature of rockbox I have removed 'charging...' and replaced it with 'AC', signifying the AC adaptor is plugged in. Any thoughts on this. If AC is not appropriate then i may have to use an icon of a plug and wire, but I'm trying to avoid icons...

...and the background will be re-done.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 06, 2007, 05:17:40 PM
A complete version of the 220x176 (ipod photo, h300) wps is now available:

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIriverH300#Ultima_v1_0

And a 320x240 version (ipod5g):

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpod5g#Ultima_v1_0

176x132 (ipod nano):

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpodNano#Ultima_v1_0

128x128 (iriver h10 5GB):

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIriverH105Gb

240x320 (gigabeat):

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsGigabeatF#Ultima_v1_0

160x128 (h10 20gb and x5):

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIaudioX5#Ultima_v1_0

176x220 (e200):

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsSansaE200#Ultima_v1_0

160x128 greyscale (iriver h100) (seperate versions are being made for the ipod4g and the iaudio m5):

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIriverH100#Ultima_v1_0

Other versions are also nearly complete.

Thanks go to piexlma for providing reduced nimbus fonts.

Enjoy :)

*please report any major bugs. Everything should be working fine though.

Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: NicolasP on May 06, 2007, 09:30:31 PM
I just tested your theme on my gigabeat and I have one more remark : the very thin progressbar makes cuesheet markers a bit hard to see. This made me have a look at the code and I noticed the syntax you used in the progressbar tag is wrong. You shouldn't be putting the bitmap filename in the %pb tag. The right syntax is :
Code: [Select]
%pb|height|leftpos|rightpos|toppos|Once I replaced the "pb.bmp" by "7", the cuesheet markers were easier to see (before that, the height would default to 1), but not exactly nice to see on the progressbar.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: mannequin on May 07, 2007, 01:12:39 AM
testing the gigabeat version here. it looks rather graceful.

few remarks:
like NicolasP already pointed out, the progress bar is very thin and even with the corrected syntax cuesheet markers are very hard to see.

while nimbus19 looks good in the WPS, it always seemed too big for me in the file browser, resulting in a lot of scrolling of folders names etc.

there're no play/pause/fast forward/rewind icons which i find to be very useful, especially the play/pause ones.

Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: thenrik on May 07, 2007, 03:00:42 AM
After the bugs are worked out, I say let's go for it. Denny has made a theme that works on all platforms, simple and effective. I think it will solve the first five minutes problem where new users become frustrated by the screen dimming out and an unfriendly default theme.

I can see new users loading Rockbox, seeing this theme and thinking, "This is something I can deal with."

Folks can go to the galleries later on if they want other features.

Tom
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 07, 2007, 08:41:40 AM
Thanks for trying it out. I will increase the size of the progress bar on the gigabeat, and perhaps the ipod 5g. I'll also look at the syntax. Play, pause fast forward and rewind buttons will not be added for reasons discussed in the sticky.

@ Gnostic, looking at it, i seem to have somehow uploaded the origional again :(. I'll get that changed.

*edit* The correct version is now available for the h100's.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: NicolasP on May 07, 2007, 08:55:23 AM
I agree with the fact that having all the playback status icons displayed with only one being highlighted is a complete waste of screen space, but having one that changes to reflect the current status is a requirement to me. It just seems odd to me that the only difference between playback and pause is the elapsed time not changing.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 07, 2007, 08:59:22 AM
 I could include a paused icon, do you think a play icon would be necessary?. Time for this project is running gout this week. I'm away from tomorrow so I'll hopefully start working on it again when i get back.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: NicolasP on May 07, 2007, 09:03:40 AM
I like the way it's done in iCatcher : one icon that changes according to the status. That way the WPS reacts nicely to keypresses.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 07, 2007, 09:42:02 AM
hmm, I'll see about fitting play status into the hold conditional as that's the only place I can think of putting it.  

BTW, How are cue sheet markers displayed on the progress bar?
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: Viljark on May 07, 2007, 12:49:36 PM
Hey, I have a little problem with my nano. Text isn't there, where it should be.
What should i do?

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Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 07, 2007, 01:56:51 PM
Hmm, I included nimbus-10 instead of -11. Fixed now:

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIpodNano#Ultima_v1_0

Thanks for reporting that.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: major_works on May 07, 2007, 03:01:39 PM
176x220 (e200):

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsSansaE200#Ultima_v1_0

Denny:

There seems to be a problem with the Sansa download... FYI. I'd like to give it a try.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 07, 2007, 03:09:49 PM
176x220 (e200):

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsSansaE200#Ultima_v1_0

Denny:

There seems to be a problem with the Sansa download... FYI. I'd like to give it a try.

Its fixed now, I screwed up with linking to the file in the wiki.

cheers.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: major_works on May 07, 2007, 03:16:41 PM
Thanks, Denny...

Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: Mad Cow on May 07, 2007, 07:27:06 PM
I love the gigabeat version, finally a theme that uses a nice, big font but also looks good and shows a good amount of playback info. Looks even better with the Silk 18px icon set.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: Yotto on May 08, 2007, 12:16:21 AM
Okay, I've had it installed for 10 minutes and I must say I love this theme.

However I would make one small change that won't change the look AT ALL but will really help a lot in customization.  Your battery and HDD icons don't have any transparent pixels for the background, meaning a customizer cannot simply drop a new background image in and have it work perfectly.  I looked at the icons, and there may be some loss of dithering but I haven't had time to really look a lot.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 15, 2007, 03:38:22 PM
Well i'm back from my break and straight into uni revision. This projects on hold for now but i'll get back to it.

re transparency: I'll have a go at making all images have a transparent background when possible. The problem here is the progress bar does not use transparency and requires the dithering for the glow effect. It may have to be re done but I'm not sure if it would be worth it... surely anyone customising this theme would use an alternative progress bar.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: lights0ut on May 15, 2007, 08:34:46 PM
First of all, thanks for all the work you've done on this; this theme is very cool. I've been using the gigabeat version a lot as it's the only theme with a fairly large font (making my own soon, by the way) I've also tried the iPod version and I like it a lot too. Overall, the theme is solid, clear, easy to read and use, and looks good to boot.
Good luck with university, can't wait to see the finished work.

About the transparency with the progress bar, I think the goal with the default theme is to make it very easy/appealing, if your goal is to make it so users can switch backdrops to something of their own choosing (which is a great idea for a default theme, I might add) shouldn't it not involve changing the .wps?, some users would find this task (however easy it is) a bit of a hindrance when it comes to customizing the backdrop.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: Yotto on May 15, 2007, 10:56:33 PM
To be honest, I wasn't even thinking of the progress bar and didn't notice the glow effect (though one of the first things I did was make the bar 6 pixels high and solid white to make it more easy to see on my iPod 5G with the backlight off).

Like evilg123, I think a major boon to the default theme would be the ability to just drop a new image in as the background and have all icons not have some of the old background left over.  Now, obviously, if the color is much different than the blue you'll have jaggies so it's not ideal, but as a new user the first thing I did was start playing around with the background image on WPSs I downloaded, and if the default theme had looked good with a new backdrop I'd have been an extremely happy newbie.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: Angyman on May 16, 2007, 02:03:55 AM
So... i posted that already as a kind of impression on how something like this could work... And i think for the default theme this could be a very user-friendly solution... (You need to press download your own)

http://rockthemes.free.fr/index.php

Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 16, 2007, 06:11:11 AM
Thanks for everyone's comments on this theme. Once I get back to working on it methinks I'll revise the progress bar and make it simpler. The Icons will definitely have jaggies on other non blue backdrops. This is unavoidable without sacrificing a smooth look on the standard backdrop. It could encourage customisers to edit/make icons  ;).

@ Angryman: That system looks really great but I cant see it as an option for a default theme since obviously a default has to come pre installed with every build.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: Yotto on May 19, 2007, 03:39:30 AM
After using this theme for a couple weeks, I am finding the play/pause/ff/rw to be the only thing I miss.  I might fiddle to add it myself.  Other than that, I absolutely adore this theme.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: bluebrother on May 19, 2007, 05:49:52 AM
I just looked in the WpsGallery, but I can't find a version for the ipod mini. Is that still in the works or have I overlooked something?
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on May 19, 2007, 06:35:19 AM
After using this theme for a couple weeks, I am finding the play/pause/ff/rw to be the only thing I miss.  I might fiddle to add it myself.  Other than that, I absolutely adore this theme.

The play status icons will probably be implemented in the next revision when I get time for it, as well as other requests. Thanks for the comments :).

I just looked in the WpsGallery, but I can't find a version for the ipod mini. Is that still in the works or have I overlooked something?

The ipod mini version is nearly complete but I don't want to upload it until I revise it along with all the other versions. That could be some time as I wont be able to work on this properly in the next couple of weeks.

Cheers,
Denny.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: ryran on June 14, 2007, 02:25:17 AM
Hey Denny... I just now finally took a sec to try out this theme on my ipod video and I gotta say, I absolutely love it. I immediately noticed that the hold bmp had a pink outline however--somehow it ended up with a darker pink color around the edges instead of 255,0,255. I fixed it and replaced the zip in the ipod 5g wps gallery on the wiki..but thought I'd bring it to your attention in case it's the same for other targets.

If you don't respond and I have some time tomorrow, I might have a look and fix them if necessary, but uh... no promises. Thanks for the wonderful work. :)
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: denny on June 14, 2007, 04:12:50 AM
Hey, thanks for noticing that and fixing it :). I'm not sure how that happened.

My work on this project has stumbled again and I don't know when I will be able to work on it again. I'm away for a week then a month with plenty of work in-between. Hopefully I'll get back to it later in the summer.
Title: Re: new default theme concept.
Post by: ryran on June 14, 2007, 03:22:26 PM
Cool. I looked at them all and the only other bmp that had a failed attempt at transparency was the hold icon for the gigabeat, which I promptly fixed and then replaced the zip on the wiki (without noting it on the page).

I also re-replaced the 320x240 (5g) zip because I realized I originally uploaded it with a Thumbs.db file in the bmp directory. Whoops.

Also, if anyone with higher access on the wiki is reading this, can you delete the "Ultima_320x240_v1.01" attachment on the 5g wps page? That was how I uploaded it before I decided it would be a better idea to just leave the filenames the same.