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Rockbox General Discussion / Re: iPod 6 Classic with Rockbos is not recognized by Windows 10 after adding files

« Last post by QRDeNameland on September 26, 2023, 03:18:16 PM »

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I had it working before with something like 550 GB of music files, so counterfeit sd cards is not the problem.  I think it also rules out incompatibility, I'm not getting a 'red X' or anything like that, it does in fact boot into Rockbox well enough to get to Committing Database phase, and just can't get past it.  I suppose it's *possible* that somehow one of the cards got dislodged, but being that I am getting the same failure mode after rebuilding it, it seems very unlikely.

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Rockbox General Discussion / Re: iPod 6 Classic with Rockbos is not recognized by Windows 10 after adding files

« Last post by Trzyzet on September 26, 2023, 02:54:18 PM »

What memory cards did you used for the iFlash?

Oh, I thought I included that info...

Two of these:  https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B08L87V4PH/

And that's the link you bought them, right? Just to mention - Sandisk has the biggest amount of counterfeits of their products and there was a situations even official distributors had fake memory cards.
Right now I'm buying only from official amazon Sandisk shop like the link you sent.

If it were me, at that point I'd open it up again, and either reformat the cards in a card-reader before trying again, or just give up and put that iflash and cards in a 7.5gen and try with a 128gb card in that 6th gen.

The whole idea of doing this in the first place was to have *my* old iPod upgraded to a nifty terapod.  The person who did the work for me (and they did not charge me for the work, they just have a passion for this sort of thing)  assured me it was reliably upgradeable with these parts, but from what y'all are telling me it's not.  So now I'm supposed to go out and source another iPod, tear both of them apart in the hope I don't destroy them (or myself), and hope against all experience to contrary that it will all work?  With all due respect, at that point it's far cheaper and less stressful to buy a new player that I don't have to torture myself endlessly to have working.  Like I should have done in the first place, in hindsight.

That might be a problem. I saw your configuration and most likely the iFlash adapter is doing erratic stuff, most likely (again, I'm not sure) because of 2x 512GB card configuration. At first, I would try to check different card config like 4x 256GB.
Second thing - I very often had a problem with my iFlash dual (2x full SD cards) during a bigger shock one of the memory cards was detaching itself from the slot. Maybe micro SD adapters has the same problem?
Also, about the compatibility, from the iFlash website (https://www.iflash.xyz/store/iflash-quad/#tab-sd-cards)

Some cards cause RED X on iPod 6g & 7g – get card exchanged or try another model

There are some issues with Sandisk micro SD cards.

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Repairing and Upgrading Rockbox Capable Players / Best/Simplest Uprgrades for iRiver IHP-140

« Last post by dfunk on September 26, 2023, 01:23:04 PM »

Howdy folks! I recently ran across my venerable old IHP-140 and I'd like to try to spruce it up for use in the modern day. (I've seen past posts like this here, but the most recent was from like 6 years ago...) I just charged it up and it currently works with the stock firmware, though given the noise and slow file transfer speed of the HDD, as well as the relatively small charge the battery holds, those parts will likely need replacing soon. I remember how I always meant to try to install Rockbox on it but it never seemed stable enough. Then smartphone technology caught up and my iRiver sat collecting dust for all these years. But I'm hoping I can breathe new life into it! I'm reasonably tech savvy but not super advanced. But in short, I want to:

1. Massively upgrade the storage. What sort of media should I use? CF, SD/microSD, SSD, something else? How high can I take it? What kind of adapters do I need to make it all work?
2. Figure out a way to speed up file transfer. Is there a way to somehow upgrade the mini USB port to something faster? (This sounds challenging/impossible, but I am not tech savvy enough to know for sure.) Or is it possible to cut a slot in the case and install an SD/microSD reader, allowing cards to be swapped into a PC for quick file transfer? Something else? I'd prefer not to have to use a screwdriver to open the case every time I want to transfer files.
3. Replace the aging battery.
4. Install Rockbox.

What parts should I use? Where should I get them? Parts don't have to be super cheap. Happy to pay a little extra if it means not having to tear the thing apart to troubleshoot constantly. Are there tutorials/videos out there? I have a couple friends who have done professional electronics repair who can help me with the actual work once I figure out what's possible and with what parts.

And yeah, I know I can probably just buy a device off the shelf that does all of this for way cheaper, but this is a nostalgia/sentimental value project. The iRiver devices were some of the only "affordable" higher quality stereo digital recorders from the time and I really loved it for that, along with the cyberpunky-aesthetics. I still think the inline LCD remote is super cool.

Thanks in advance!

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Rockbox General Discussion / Re: iPod 6 Classic with Rockbos is not recognized by Windows 10 after adding files

« Last post by QRDeNameland on September 25, 2023, 05:28:39 PM »

What memory cards did you used for the iFlash?

Oh, I thought I included that info...

Two of these:  https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B08L87V4PH/

If it were me, at that point I'd open it up again, and either reformat the cards in a card-reader before trying again, or just give up and put that iflash and cards in a 7.5gen and try with a 128gb card in that 6th gen.

The whole idea of doing this in the first place was to have *my* old iPod upgraded to a nifty terapod.  The person who did the work for me (and they did not charge me for the work, they just have a passion for this sort of thing)  assured me it was reliably upgradeable with these parts, but from what y'all are telling me it's not.  So now I'm supposed to go out and source another iPod, tear both of them apart in the hope I don't destroy them (or myself), and hope against all experience to contrary that it will all work?  With all due respect, at that point it's far cheaper and less stressful to buy a new player that I don't have to torture myself endlessly to have working.  Like I should have done in the first place, in hindsight.

[EDIT] actually, thinking about it, I'm not entirely sure it is supposed to show up as a drive (as opposed to just a 'device') when it's in DFU mode.  Can't actually remember (and can't check because I'm in the middle of syncing an ipod).  The idea is to restore it with iTunes at that point, as iTunes should say it's found an ipod in recovery mode.

As for DFU mode, when I did the last rebuild with the Dev Build, that was the *only* way that I could finally it recognized as a disc so that I could reformat and then get the Rockbox Utility to see the mountpoint.  Either way, it doesn't see it as a disc now in *any* mode.  iTunes is useless as well, it recognizes the iPod but when it tries to start any recovery it goes to the nameless error 1675.

I was interested about disconnecting the battery cable, so I wondering if letting the battery completely drain might not achieve the same effect.  Otherwise, I'm rapidly approaching 'cut bait' time, despite the time and money invested.

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Rockbox General Discussion / Re: iPod 6 Classic with Rockbos is not recognized by Windows 10 after adding files

« Last post by Trzyzet on September 25, 2023, 11:36:38 AM »

What memory cards did you used for the iFlash?

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Rockbox General Discussion / Re: iPod 6 Classic with Rockbos is not recognized by Windows 10 after adding files

« Last post by Frankenpod on September 25, 2023, 08:24:44 AM »

So the computer doesn't even see it if you connect it, and then force it into DFU mode (holding down centre+menu for a long period)?

Yep, tried on 3 different computers, two with iTunes installed and one without.  In DFU mode, it does show up in Device Manager on 3 machines, but does not show up as a drive either in Explorer, in Safely Remove Hardware, or in Disk Management or AOMEI.  In regular boot mode, it doesn't even show up in Device Manager.  I was able to reformat in DFU mode while 3.15 was still installed, but now with the development build on there I got nothing to work with.

If it were me, at that point I'd open it up again, and either reformat the cards in a card-reader before trying again, or just give up and put that iflash and cards in a 7.5gen and try with a 128gb card in that 6th gen.

[EDIT] actually, thinking about it, I'm not entirely sure it is supposed to show up as a drive (as opposed to just a 'device') when it's in DFU mode.  Can't actually remember (and can't check because I'm in the middle of syncing an ipod).  The idea is to restore it with iTunes at that point, as iTunes should say it's found an ipod in recovery mode.

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Rockbox General Discussion / Re: iPod 6 Classic with Rockbos is not recognized by Windows 10 after adding files

« Last post by QRDeNameland on September 25, 2023, 12:26:39 AM »

So the computer doesn't even see it if you connect it, and then force it into DFU mode (holding down centre+menu for a long period)?

Yep, tried on 3 different computers, two with iTunes installed and one without.  In DFU mode, it does show up in Device Manager on 3 machines, but does not show up as a drive either in Explorer, in Safely Remove Hardware, or in Disk Management or AOMEI.  In regular boot mode, it doesn't even show up in Device Manager.  I was able to reformat in DFU mode while 3.15 was still installed, but now with the development build on there I got nothing to work with.

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Rockbox General Discussion / Re: iPod 6 Classic with Rockbos is not recognized by Windows 10 after adding files

« Last post by Bilgus on September 24, 2023, 11:33:51 PM »

I'm not in to ipods but once you get this sorted I think I have a patch that might help the next  person
https://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/c/rockbox/+/5345 [Feature] add a prompt to database commit on start-up

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Rockbox General Discussion / Re: iPod 6 Classic with Rockbos is not recognized by Windows 10 after adding files

« Last post by Frankenpod on September 24, 2023, 10:30:53 PM »

It's difficult, and is somewhat likely to damage the ipod housing (and if you are careless, the ipod's internals), but it's not impossible.

I've seen the tutorials on youtube.  Considering how horribly the software end of this has gone, I'd more than likely end up losing a finger or two.  Not to mention, when so far the situation has just gone from bad to worse, what is my likelihood of success? 

What I don't understand is:  if Rockbox can boot enough to get to Committing Database part, why can't the drive be seen at all?

The last point, I don't know, you'd have to ask a developer, I'm just a RB user (and frequent mangler of ipods).  Though I'd guess when the ipod is engaged in that database process it hasn't got to the point of executing the code that can communicate with the computer.

  I was going to mention I've opened and re-opened dozens of the things, and only cut myself to the point of getting blood on the motherboard once.  I think you might have more luck if the ipod was only using 128gb, though, as philden suggests.  Then you could use the original firmware if RB ever got into a catatonic state again.  Even just openning it and disconnecting/reconnecting the battery might reboot it to the point where you could restore it.  But the classic screw-up when opening the things is to break the battery connector off the motherboard completely.

I've gotten a few 6th gens to work with 128gb cards, even using generic non-iFlash adaptors.  But generally I would only use 7.5gens (or ipod Video) for larger capacities.

So the computer doesn't even see it if you connect it, and then force it into DFU mode (holding down centre+menu for a long period)?

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Rockbox General Discussion / Re: iPod 6 Classic with Rockbos is not recognized by Windows 10 after adding files

« Last post by QRDeNameland on September 24, 2023, 08:10:18 PM »

It's difficult, and is somewhat likely to damage the ipod housing (and if you are careless, the ipod's internals), but it's not impossible.

I've seen the tutorials on youtube.  Considering how horribly the software end of this has gone, I'd more than likely end up losing a finger or two.  Not to mention, when so far the situation has just gone from bad to worse, what is my likelihood of success? 

What I don't understand is:  if Rockbox can boot enough to get to Committing Database part, why can't the drive be seen at all?