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Hardware / Re: Sansa Fuze+ suddenly stopped turning on
« Last post by bnuuy on February 01, 2025, 03:05:21 PM »thanks a lot; the recovery mode is extremly helpful, and i wish this sort of thing was more standard in other devices as well (i have a bricked phone somewhere that for some reason completely lacks any sort of recovery mode and that i can't restore for this reason).
i was able to enter recovery mode, and writing the OF to the partition in question seems not to do anything. however, the fact i was able to get a life sign (it showing up as a usb device and the recovery image making the screen light up) out of the device is very encouraging.
i'll double-check everything to ensure this isn't an error on my part, but now i am confident that this is indeed recoverable, and it's merely a question of how much work it is. and hey, if i can confirm the problem is that the internal storage is corrupt, i might consider seeing if i can replace the part and upgrade the internal storage capacity in the process, and otherwise i'll go with the scheme of booting off the sd card (after confirming the sd card is fully functional itself, since there were some signs there may be a problem with it as well).
i was able to enter recovery mode, and writing the OF to the partition in question seems not to do anything. however, the fact i was able to get a life sign (it showing up as a usb device and the recovery image making the screen light up) out of the device is very encouraging.
i'll double-check everything to ensure this isn't an error on my part, but now i am confident that this is indeed recoverable, and it's merely a question of how much work it is. and hey, if i can confirm the problem is that the internal storage is corrupt, i might consider seeing if i can replace the part and upgrade the internal storage capacity in the process, and otherwise i'll go with the scheme of booting off the sd card (after confirming the sd card is fully functional itself, since there were some signs there may be a problem with it as well).
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User Interface and Voice / Re: And now it's the Sleep Timer...
« Last post by chris_s on February 01, 2025, 10:40:05 AM »As far as I can tell this is long-standing behavior for some reason, not sure if intentionally or not. Would be easy to fix though.
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Repairing and Upgrading Rockbox Capable Players / Re: SSD sold by iPod Parts UK
« Last post by graemehh on February 01, 2025, 09:16:57 AM »It was not intended as criticism of everyone who works hard on RockBox, but as a newbie to the platform, it was a failure to understand the complexities and sublties of the problems involved.
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Repairing and Upgrading Rockbox Capable Players / Re: SSD sold by iPod Parts UK
« Last post by speachy on February 01, 2025, 08:55:56 AM »> As there are so many MAC users now, is it not possible to write a RockBox version that will load onto a MAC formatted iPod with ease?
Ah yes, the "why don't you nerd harder" appeal.
"load onto Mac formatted iPods" means implementing native read/write support for the Mac-only HFS+ filesystem. This represents a _major_ undertaking even before the completely not-fully-undestood proprietary (and dead-end) nature of HFS+ is considered -- Last I checked, even Linux cannot reliably write to HFS+ filesystems.
Then consider that Macs can read FAT32 (ie "windows formatted") iPods, but not the other way around....
Personally, I have zero interest in investing time and effort into a completely proprietary, deliberately-hostile-to-free-software platform.
EDIT: Grammar
Ah yes, the "why don't you nerd harder" appeal.
"load onto Mac formatted iPods" means implementing native read/write support for the Mac-only HFS+ filesystem. This represents a _major_ undertaking even before the completely not-fully-undestood proprietary (and dead-end) nature of HFS+ is considered -- Last I checked, even Linux cannot reliably write to HFS+ filesystems.
Then consider that Macs can read FAT32 (ie "windows formatted") iPods, but not the other way around....
Personally, I have zero interest in investing time and effort into a completely proprietary, deliberately-hostile-to-free-software platform.
EDIT: Grammar
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Repairing and Upgrading Rockbox Capable Players / Re: SSD sold by iPod Parts UK
« Last post by graemehh on February 01, 2025, 06:01:41 AM »In the end, I used the imCort dual micro SD card adapter sold by moonlit.market (https://moonlit.market/products/imcort-sd-card-adapter-for-the-ipod-classic-classic-connect) along with two 128GB Kingston Canvas Go! Plus micro SD cards and a slim 3000mA/h battery (yes, I know that it will not really be 3000mA/H but it fits). All in a 30Gb (slim) 5th generation iPod classic.
I only have a MAC and at the moment I can not load RockBox. The ipodcatcher script does not run on my MAC so I can not go down the manual conversion to FAT32 route! Instead I'm canvasing friends to see if anyone has a windows machine with iTunes.
As there are so many MAC users now, is it not possible to write a RockBox version that will load onto a MAC formatted iPod with ease?
At the moment, the iPod conversion is working fine with very good battery life, however I will get RockBox loaded so that I can play FLAC files.
I only have a MAC and at the moment I can not load RockBox. The ipodcatcher script does not run on my MAC so I can not go down the manual conversion to FAT32 route! Instead I'm canvasing friends to see if anyone has a windows machine with iTunes.
As there are so many MAC users now, is it not possible to write a RockBox version that will load onto a MAC formatted iPod with ease?
At the moment, the iPod conversion is working fine with very good battery life, however I will get RockBox loaded so that I can play FLAC files.
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Hardware / Re: Sansa Fuze+ suddenly stopped turning on
« Last post by Bilgus on February 01, 2025, 12:52:06 AM »were you running a multiboot build running off the sd card?
If not you should for sure do it if/when the device is back up
this sounds an awful lot like flash dying but I've had similar happen crashing in the middle of a write on the fuze plus internal memory and was able to recover
the fuze+ has a set of programs that will allow you to attempt to restore the device
and the imx-233 has a inbuilt recovery mode if you can't get to this the chip died not the flash
https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaFuzePlusPort.html#Recovery_procedure
So first see if you get anything out of it (you should)
you should be able to just flash a new bootloader like here:
https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ImxInstall.html#Crafting_the_bootloader_image
and if not ultimately you'll end doing the steps
here: https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ImxInstall.html#Building_a_recovery_image
if you can get it up you can probably get your bootloader on there and run a build off the sd card you might get it to work
If not you should for sure do it if/when the device is back up
this sounds an awful lot like flash dying but I've had similar happen crashing in the middle of a write on the fuze plus internal memory and was able to recover
the fuze+ has a set of programs that will allow you to attempt to restore the device
and the imx-233 has a inbuilt recovery mode if you can't get to this the chip died not the flash
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The i.MX233 chip has a usb recovery mode partly documented in the datasheet. The Fuze+ can be put in this mode by the following procedure: * Turn off the device * Push the volume up button * While holding the volume up button down, plug in the USB cable * The screen will stay black and the device will then register itself as a HID device: 066f:3780 (Sigmatel, Inc.) ROM Recovery
https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaFuzePlusPort.html#Recovery_procedure
So first see if you get anything out of it (you should)
you should be able to just flash a new bootloader like here:
https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ImxInstall.html#Crafting_the_bootloader_image
and if not ultimately you'll end doing the steps
here: https://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ImxInstall.html#Building_a_recovery_image
if you can get it up you can probably get your bootloader on there and run a build off the sd card you might get it to work
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Hardware / Sansa Fuze+ suddenly stopped turning on
« Last post by bnuuy on January 31, 2025, 09:13:56 PM »So, after loosing my original fuze+ a few months back, i recently got a new (used, obv) one off ebay; i pretty quickly put rockbox on it (just like on my old one), and at first, it worked fine.
Then, i started having some odd issues with being unable to copy files from my computer to the sd card in the device; For whatever reason, the copying process on my computer would freeze up (i am on Ubuntu), and even after (unmounting and) unplugging it it would continue to show as a storage device in the file menu, like an unmountable ghost persisting past being unplugged. Which isn't just strange behavior for the device, but also very much for my computer. i was suspecting either there was something wrong with the SD card, and/or also some software fault (i was unable to test it by accessing it through the OF, since i could only get it to start without being plugged in, though i was specifically trying to get it to use MTP mode).
now, one of the things i tried was installing a daily build of rockbox instead of the stable 3.15. same issue, but worked fine otherwise, for a while.
except, now, suddenly, the device stopped turning on at all, or responding in any way to USB. it won't even boot into the OF either. holding the power button for 30s doesn't appear to do anything. i get that using rockbox and esp dev versions like the daily builds carry some risk, but it's really odd that it won't even to OF anymore. i did get some crashes shortly before during my attempts to repeatedly turn it on and off to get it to boot into OF while plugged in, and at least once before i installed the daily build, so i'm not entirely sure what caused that (in the moment i thought probably some weird USB glitch).
so, i now have a device that seems entirely unresponsive; i'm fearing it's there is some internal memory corruption going on. is that plausible? what could or could not be at fault for the nonresponsiveness?
if it is a hardware fault, i might be able to replace the faulty component if i know what it is.
Then, i started having some odd issues with being unable to copy files from my computer to the sd card in the device; For whatever reason, the copying process on my computer would freeze up (i am on Ubuntu), and even after (unmounting and) unplugging it it would continue to show as a storage device in the file menu, like an unmountable ghost persisting past being unplugged. Which isn't just strange behavior for the device, but also very much for my computer. i was suspecting either there was something wrong with the SD card, and/or also some software fault (i was unable to test it by accessing it through the OF, since i could only get it to start without being plugged in, though i was specifically trying to get it to use MTP mode).
now, one of the things i tried was installing a daily build of rockbox instead of the stable 3.15. same issue, but worked fine otherwise, for a while.
except, now, suddenly, the device stopped turning on at all, or responding in any way to USB. it won't even boot into the OF either. holding the power button for 30s doesn't appear to do anything. i get that using rockbox and esp dev versions like the daily builds carry some risk, but it's really odd that it won't even to OF anymore. i did get some crashes shortly before during my attempts to repeatedly turn it on and off to get it to boot into OF while plugged in, and at least once before i installed the daily build, so i'm not entirely sure what caused that (in the moment i thought probably some weird USB glitch).
so, i now have a device that seems entirely unresponsive; i'm fearing it's there is some internal memory corruption going on. is that plausible? what could or could not be at fault for the nonresponsiveness?
if it is a hardware fault, i might be able to replace the faulty component if i know what it is.
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Feature Ideas / Re: Keep custom audio speed setting during shutdown/reboot
« Last post by bahus on January 31, 2025, 04:35:59 PM »> It was me who suggested this feature about 9 months ago
Not sure when it was first suggested but a patch implementing this feature was suggested in 2010: https://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11619.
Not sure when it was first suggested but a patch implementing this feature was suggested in 2010: https://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11619.
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Theming and Appearance Customization / Re: iconset question
« Last post by RetiredTeacherGuy on January 31, 2025, 02:00:08 PM »Ah I think I found where you are actually asking about
https://github.com/Rockbox/rockbox/blob/master/apps/root_menu.c#L494Code: [Select]MENUITEM_RETURNVALUE(shortcut_menu, ID2P(LANG_SHORTCUTS), GO_TO_SHORTCUTMENU,
NULL, Icon_Bookmark);
MENUITEM_RETURNVALUE(file_browser, ID2P(LANG_DIR_BROWSER), GO_TO_FILEBROWSER,
NULL, Icon_file_view_menu);
#ifdef HAVE_TAGCACHE
MENUITEM_RETURNVALUE(db_browser, ID2P(LANG_TAGCACHE), GO_TO_DBBROWSER,
NULL, Icon_Audio);
#endif
MENUITEM_RETURNVALUE(rocks_browser, ID2P(LANG_PLUGINS), GO_TO_BROWSEPLUGINS,
NULL, Icon_Plugin);
MENUITEM_RETURNVALUE(playlist_browser, ID2P(LANG_CATALOG), GO_TO_PLAYLIST_VIEWER,
NULL, Icon_Playlist);
Ah, so it is intentional. Not enough distinct icon slots I guess?
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Theming and Appearance Customization / Re: iconset question
« Last post by Bilgus on January 31, 2025, 10:36:55 AM »Ah I think I found where you are actually asking about
https://github.com/Rockbox/rockbox/blob/master/apps/root_menu.c#L494
https://github.com/Rockbox/rockbox/blob/master/apps/root_menu.c#L494
Code: [Select]
MENUITEM_RETURNVALUE(shortcut_menu, ID2P(LANG_SHORTCUTS), GO_TO_SHORTCUTMENU,
NULL, Icon_Bookmark);
MENUITEM_RETURNVALUE(file_browser, ID2P(LANG_DIR_BROWSER), GO_TO_FILEBROWSER,
NULL, Icon_file_view_menu);
#ifdef HAVE_TAGCACHE
MENUITEM_RETURNVALUE(db_browser, ID2P(LANG_TAGCACHE), GO_TO_DBBROWSER,
NULL, Icon_Audio);
#endif
MENUITEM_RETURNVALUE(rocks_browser, ID2P(LANG_PLUGINS), GO_TO_BROWSEPLUGINS,
NULL, Icon_Plugin);
MENUITEM_RETURNVALUE(playlist_browser, ID2P(LANG_CATALOG), GO_TO_PLAYLIST_VIEWER,
NULL, Icon_Playlist);