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Rockbox Development => Feature Ideas => Topic started by: MajiKool Dragonâ„¢ on August 09, 2008, 09:03:12 PM

Title: Internet on targets with a micro sd slot
Post by: MajiKool Dragonâ„¢ on August 09, 2008, 09:03:12 PM
well now... i know this whole thing has sort of already been discuss elsewhere on these forums(i think it was under plug-ins/viewers).
but hears the deal... i would so love an internet browser even if its a text only browser.
and since there are now micro sd wifi cards (found here...   http://www.spectec.com.tw/products_detal.asp?dptype=w1sdw823   )
as was said before this would be a very complex undertaking. but i very much think it would be a worthwhile one.

this would also be useful for multilayer gaming on these targets.
Title: Re: Internet on targets with a micro sd slot
Post by: GodEater on August 12, 2008, 11:10:42 AM
Does anyone have any idea how these things present themselves? As a USB network interface or something else that's wildly different.

This is up there with "NewPort" in the "Really really hard to do category". Without documentation on how to talk to those cards, we wouldn't even know where to start.
Title: Re: Internet on targets with a micro sd slot
Post by: bluebrother on August 12, 2008, 03:03:43 PM
Given the fact that SD has some "SD interface" (don't know the correct name for this right now) that is in fact some kind of bus I bet you'd need a special driver for the device. Plus, I'm rather sure that those devices won't work using SPI mode which makes things much more complicated. IOW, I don't think there is enough information (the SD specification is only partly available for free) and interested devs ...
Title: Re: Internet on targets with a micro sd slot
Post by: GodEater on August 13, 2008, 07:28:19 AM
Of course, even assuming we could get the details we needed to write a driver for the card, we'd also have to implement a TCP/IP stack too - not a trivial job either.
Title: Re: Internet on targets with a micro sd slot
Post by: MajiKool Dragonâ„¢ on August 13, 2008, 09:48:43 AM
i'd try to help/do it my self , but unfortunately i don't know nothing when it comes to stuff as complex as this. That's why i come to you guys... the experts. :)
Title: Re: Internet on targets with a micro sd slot
Post by: mcuelenaere on August 13, 2008, 10:57:20 AM
They have binaries for Linux targets available at
http://WWW.SPECTEC.COM.TW/download/driver-for-linux-2-4/20051219Linux2410.rar
and
http://WWW.SPECTEC.COM.TW/download/driver-for-linux-2-6/wlan11g Linux .zip

(this is for the SDW-821, not the SDW-823).

It's not much, but you can reverse engineer it and see how the the driver communicates with the card...

Source (http://www.spectec.com.tw/cuteforum/detail.asp?main_id=80)
Title: Re: Internet on targets with a micro sd slot
Post by: MajiKool Dragonâ„¢ on October 04, 2008, 05:28:30 PM
i don't mean to sound well... i don't know. but i would like to know if anyone is working on this or even considering working on this. i myself can't so don't look tome to do it. :-[
Title: Re: Internet on targets with a micro sd slot
Post by: saratoga on October 04, 2008, 06:16:56 PM
but i would like to know if anyone is working on this or even considering working on this.

Since no one has said anything, I don't think its being worked on.
Title: Re: Internet on targets with a micro sd slot
Post by: bluebrother on October 05, 2008, 03:23:23 AM
but i would like to know if anyone is working on this or even considering working on this.

Since no one has said anything, I don't think its being worked on.

Besides that, it's quite a lot of work:
- you need a driver for the actual network hardware
- you need a network stack
- you need at least a basic browser

given that none of that is a trivial task I bet this will never happen. Also, as only a small number of targets do have a micro SD slot and therefore could use something like that the possibility decreases even further, and I'd say it heavily decreases. Rockbox is still meant as an audio player ...