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Title: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: serial8 on August 07, 2007, 12:24:53 PM
Hi,

I just got my hands on a 5th gen video ipod and hem, I unzipped the file onto my ipod as mentionned, downloaded the ipodpatcher binary and it damn don't work. I tried it many many many times on a Linux Machine and a Windows XP machine, and always the damn same error.

Here's the Linux output:

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$ sudo ./ipodpatcher
Password:
ipodpatcher v1.0 with v1.1 bootloaders - (C) Dave Chapman 2006-2007
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

[INFO] Scanning disk devices...
[INFO] Ipod found - Video (aka 5th Generation) ("winpod") - /dev/sda
[INFO] Reading partition table from /dev/sda
[INFO] Sector size is 2048 bytes
[INFO] Part    Start Sector    End Sector   Size (MB)   Type
[INFO]    0              63         48194        94.0   Empty (0x00)
[INFO]    1           48195      14651279     28521.7   W95 FAT32 (0x0b)
[INFO] Ipod model: Video (aka 5th Generation) ("winpod")
Enter i to install the Rockbox bootloader, u to uninstall
 or c to cancel and do nothing (i/u/c) :i
[INFO] Using internal bootloader - 50520 bytes
[INFO] Moving images to create room for new firmware...
[ERR]  Short read - requested -1208732320 bytes, received 4319232
[ERR]  Image movement failed.
[ERR]  --install failed.
Press ENTER to exit ipodpatcher :

and here's the Windows output:

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ipodpatcher v1.0 with v1.1 bootloaders - (C) Dave Chapman 2006-2007
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

[INFO] Scanning disk devices...
[INFO] Ipod found - Video (aka 5th Generation) ("winpod") - PY'S IPOD
[INFO] Reading partition table from PY'S IPOD
[INFO] Sector size is 2048 bytes
[INFO] Part    Start Sector    End Sector   Size (MB)  
[INFO]    0              63         48194        94.0   Empty
[INFO]    1           48195      14651279     28521.7   W95 FAT32
[INFO] Ipod model: Video (aka 5th Generation) ("winpod")
Enter i to install the Rockbox bootloader, u to uninstall
 or c to cancel and do nothing (i/u/c) :i
[INFO] Using internal bootloader - 50520 bytes
[INFO] Moving images to create room for new firmware...
[ERR]  Image movement failed.
[ERR]  --install failed.
Press ENTER to exit ipodpatcher :

Just don't see what's happening right now...
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: LambdaCalculus on August 07, 2007, 12:29:10 PM
Okay, looks like a 30GB iPod video, so that's good... but I'm trying to figure out why it failed.

I see it's already formatted as FAT32, so that's good. But...

Ah! Just to ask: since you have access to a Windows box, did you run iTunes and enable disk use? That may help you out.

Keep us posted!
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: serial8 on August 07, 2007, 12:35:01 PM
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Ah! Just to ask: since you have access to a Windows box, did you run iTunes and enable disk use? That may help you out.

Yes I did. I can't see why people don't turn this option on or why it's not built in the OEM firmware... I mean..

So yes, I did turn this option on.
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: GodEater on August 07, 2007, 12:47:06 PM
Can you make sure you have your ipod plugged directly into your PC - and not into any sort of USB hub.

If you have a second iPod cable, I'd try that too - faulty cables / USB ports have been known to give this error.
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: serial8 on August 07, 2007, 12:49:55 PM
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Can you make sure you have your ipod plugged directly into your PC - and not into any sort of USB hub.

This is one of the things I tried out, still don't work...

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If you have a second iPod cable, I'd try that too - faulty cables / USB ports have been known to give this error.

I don't have a second one. May it result in slow rates of the usb 1.1 ports? Windows try out was on a usb 2.0 port though...
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: LambdaCalculus on August 07, 2007, 12:59:35 PM
Maybe it's the result of slow rates of the usb 1.1 ports? My Windows tryout was on a usb 2.0 port though...

Did some editing to clear your grammar up. Try to be a little precise with your English, at least for the sake of our blind and foreign users who need software to read or translate text. (Just so they don't get goofed up grammar and start going "What the hey...?"  :))

Anyway, try a few other ports like GodEater recommended. Usually, some PCs with USB ports on the front may/may not have USB 2.0 transfer speeds, so try to get around to the back and try an empty port.

If it still doesn't work, come back and let us know.
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: serial8 on August 07, 2007, 01:14:44 PM
I tried a few other ports and still the same error. I noticed that the ipodpatcher.exe sent me an error message like "Write error: No errors" and that is weird.
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: LambdaCalculus on August 07, 2007, 01:17:15 PM
What about back on your Linux box? Have you tried it again there?
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: GodEater on August 07, 2007, 01:17:48 PM
I think you may need to borrow a cable from someone else in that case - it sounds like both your PCs are having a hard time talking to the disk over the USB link. It doesn't matter about the transfer speed - that is transparent to ipodpatcher.
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: LambdaCalculus on August 07, 2007, 01:22:21 PM
It doesn't matter about the transfer speed - that is transparent to ipodpatcher.

Learned something new today, thanks to GodEater!  :)
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: GodEater on August 07, 2007, 01:28:40 PM
I'd be surprised if the user noticed it either - the amount of data ipodpatcher transfers isn't huge - so even going over the lower speed USB modes, it won't take very long.
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: serial8 on August 07, 2007, 01:29:20 PM
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it sounds like both your PCs are having a hard time talking to the disk over the USB link

Everytime I try it on a linux box, there's always this short read error.

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[ERR]  Short read - requested -1208949408 bytes, received 4319232
That must be the cable...

I would like to tell you that it may or may not have any impacts on the topic but it happened some times that this "Connect your ipod to your computer to restore your ipod" message in like 7 or 8 languages.

Thanks for that help!
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: LambdaCalculus on August 07, 2007, 01:31:26 PM
Better do what Mr. Jobs says...  :)

Restore it in iTunes, then try again... but this time, bring a new cable.
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: GodEater on August 07, 2007, 01:33:13 PM
Yeah - new cable is the order of the day here. Shame you're not local - I think I have about four  :-\
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: serial8 on August 07, 2007, 01:34:47 PM
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Better do what Mr. Jobs says...  Smiley

Restore it in iTunes, then try again... but this time, bring a new cable.

The thing is that when it does that, I just hard reset my Ipod the the menu+ select combo and it's back to original state...

You know, in this word weird things happen...
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: serial8 on August 07, 2007, 01:37:21 PM
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Yeah - new cable is the order of the day here. Shame you're not local - I think I have about four  Undecided

I in Quebec, Canada so...

For the cables, does a quick ebay bargain can do the job?
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: LambdaCalculus on August 07, 2007, 01:39:04 PM
Of course it can! You can get one for dirt cheap that way!

Actually, be safer and buy at least two. GodEater's got a very good point: Always have a spare.
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: GodEater on August 07, 2007, 01:40:21 PM
I regularly curse Mr. Jobs and his non-standard cables. Why couldn't they just use USB at both ends like everyone else?!?!
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: serial8 on August 07, 2007, 01:40:36 PM
Ok that's what I will do.

Does those issues come often around here with 5th gen ipods?
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: GodEater on August 07, 2007, 01:42:12 PM
Not very often no.

But also - we don't get many posts from all the hundreds of users that never get any problems at all.
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: serial8 on August 07, 2007, 01:44:36 PM
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I regularly curse Mr. Jobs and his non-standard cables. Why couldn't they just use USB at both ends like everyone else?!?!

Because Mr. Jobs likes to get you sick with is fancy stuff. Macs do it different. But those cables are quite a mess.

The thing is that I never had a problem like this with iTunes, so why does it happen now? I really think my ipod is possessed!
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: bascule on August 07, 2007, 01:45:33 PM
I regularly curse Mr. Jobs and his non-standard cables. Why couldn't they just use USB at both ends like everyone else?!?!

Because Apple (perhaps even more than Microsoft) like proprietary lock-ins on both hardware and software, thus denying people the ability to anything bar the prescribed operations.  :P
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: LambdaCalculus on August 07, 2007, 01:50:26 PM
I swear, I'm beginning to think that Steve Jobs may be the reincarnation of Nicollò Machiavelli or something...
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: serial8 on August 07, 2007, 01:56:59 PM
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I swear, I'm beginning to think that Steve Jobs may be the reincarnation of Nicollò Machiavelli or something...

To tell the truth, Steve Jobs is quite a genius and did great things like co-writing the very first lines of codes that would become soon after what we currently call Unix.

But yeah, he's kind of weird and he after all just likes cash!
Title: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen -- FIXED
Post by: serial8 on August 09, 2007, 11:46:10 AM
Hi everybody,

I found while in backup of my Ipod that some files on the filesystem were corrupted! So I copied all I can and restored in iTunes my Ipod.

And Then everything worked out!

Thanks for all that fast support!

Happy Rockboxing!!! You guys rock!
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: GodEater on August 09, 2007, 11:48:12 AM
Thanks for letting us know you fixed it.
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: LambdaCalculus on August 09, 2007, 11:50:06 AM
Enjoy Rockbox!  :)
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: za9finm on March 30, 2008, 01:02:50 AM
I had similar problem with 5th gen ipod:

[INFO] Moving images to create room for new firmware...
[ERR]  Short read - requested 8388608 bytes, received 5243904
[ERR]  Image movement failed.
[ERR]  --install failed.

Initially found it hard to believe it could be the cable, as I had successfully used the same one to install rockbox on a 2nd gen mini. But then I remembered I had been using the back usb port on my pc for that install. Switched the cable from the front port to the back. No Problems. Great product.
Title: Re: Ipod patcher error on Ipod 5th gen
Post by: dreamlayers on March 30, 2008, 02:10:13 AM
Yes, there are signal quality issues with front USB ports on some computers.  In particular they may not allow reliable USB 2 high speed operation.  Whenever you have some kind of USB problem with a front port it's worth to try a rear port.  The front ports generally come with the case and they may not be up to spec, of good quality or designed for USB 2 high speed.  The ones on the back are on the motherboard.