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Title: Can you rate music in RockBox?
Post by: legolas52 on August 10, 2006, 11:56:19 PM
Can you rate music(1 star, 2 stars, 3stars,etc.)in rockbox?
Title: Re: Can you rate music in RockBox?
Post by: lenny on August 11, 2006, 03:43:34 AM
perhaps in the future, but for now no.
Title: Re: Can you rate music in RockBox?
Post by: mightybrick on August 11, 2006, 05:04:49 AM
perhaps in the future, but for now no.
That would be a feature I would love to see!
Title: Re: Can you rate music in RockBox?
Post by: Assimalyst on August 11, 2006, 06:15:42 AM
I'm pretty sure it's planned for inclusion in TagCache (it used to be a feature with the old database), the score system is listed in TagCache (Search by score), but currently there is no way to set the score, so when you search all the played files (score 1-10) all files logged in the played cache are listed. I'm sure a fully functional version will be included soon.
Title: Re: Can you rate music in RockBox?
Post by: bascule on August 11, 2006, 08:53:25 AM
I'm pretty sure it's planned for inclusion in TagCache (it used to be a feature with the old database), the score system is listed in TagCache (Search by score), but currently there is no way to set the score, so when you search all the played files (score 1-10) all files logged in the played cache are listed. I'm sure a fully functional version will be included soon.

Not quite true, if you have the option General Settings>File View>Tag Cache>Gather Runtime Data (experimental) set to on, Rockbox calculates an autoscore based on the average length of time a track has been listened to.

So if you listened to a track right through (100%) then listened again, but skipped to the next track at 90% through, the track would have an autoscore of 95.

These stats are available through the ID3 file view options Best tracks and List played tracks.

Best tracks lists tracks that have been played twice or more and have an autoscore of greater than 60.
List played tracks lists all tracks ever played with autoscore and playcount displayed
Title: Re: Can you rate music in RockBox?
Post by: riksweeney on August 11, 2006, 10:25:51 AM
I never understand why people want to rate music on their players. Why would you have music on your player that you've rated 0 or 1 star? Why not just delete it?

I really can't picture someone one day deciding that they want to listen to the crappiest album they have...
Title: Re: Can you rate music in RockBox?
Post by: bascule on August 11, 2006, 10:34:43 AM
LOL :D

although, you may want to rate those that rise above your already high base level of quality
Title: Re: Can you rate music in RockBox?
Post by: dcr693 on August 11, 2006, 11:31:14 AM
I never understand why people want to rate music on their players.
Autoplaylist generation.
Quote from: riksweeney
Why would you have music on your player that you've rated 0 or 1 star? Why not just delete it? I really can't picture someone one day deciding that they want to listen to the crappiest album they have...
Well, what if your DAP has more than enough capacity to hold all your music? Also, the ratings are relative. Maybe a single star for me would be songs I like but don't need to listen to often. Or, I know people who flag songs with 1 star on their iPod if there's a problem with the song (bad encoding) or if they spot a tagging problem they want to fix.
Title: Re: Can you rate music in RockBox?
Post by: Assimalyst on August 11, 2006, 12:15:40 PM
I'm pretty sure it's planned for inclusion in TagCache (it used to be a feature with the old database), the score system is listed in TagCache (Search by score), but currently there is no way to set the score, so when you search all the played files (score 1-10) all files logged in the played cache are listed. I'm sure a fully functional version will be included soon.

Not quite true, if you have the option General Settings>File View>Tag Cache>Gather Runtime Data (experimental) set to on, Rockbox calculates an autoscore based on the average length of time a track has been listened to.

So if you listened to a track right through (100%) then listened again, but skipped to the next track at 90% through, the track would have an autoscore of 95.

These stats are available through the ID3 file view options Best tracks and List played tracks.

Best tracks lists tracks that have been played twice or more and have an autoscore of greater than 60.
List played tracks lists all tracks ever played with autoscore and playcount displayed

Thanks bascule, I haven't really played ariound with scoring enough to undersatnd it fully. Perhaps you could put your description on the wiki. ;)  If not i'll give it a go later on if I get time.
Title: Re: Can you rate music in RockBox?
Post by: bascule on August 11, 2006, 01:48:24 PM
Yeah, I'll put in the Wiki, but it may not be until late this weekend :)
Title: Re: Can you rate music in RockBox?
Post by: Rincewind on August 11, 2006, 04:21:00 PM
I don't know if this is planned for tagcache, but from looking at the wps code, I saw two tags, %rr and %rp which have code that look like playcount and rating, but they don't work. I tried to find a way to insert the tagcache data there but without any success.

Is it planned for the future to display runtime data from tagcache in wps, or should I put a feature request in the wiki or flayspray?
Title: Re: Can you rate music in RockBox?
Post by: Llorean on August 11, 2006, 04:25:54 PM
They used to work with RuntimeDB, so theoretically they're in the "Too be implemented again" list for runtime data in TagCache. A flyspray reminder *may* not be a bad idea though. ;)
Title: Re: Can you rate music in RockBox?
Post by: mightybrick on August 11, 2006, 07:27:11 PM
I never understand why people want to rate music on their players. Why would you have music on your player that you've rated 0 or 1 star? Why not just delete it?

I really can't picture someone one day deciding that they want to listen to the crappiest album they have...
Often I hear about new bands from friends, that I become interested in, but often don't have the time to listen to the whole album.  So I load the album on my player to listen to later.  For me it's convenient to have a rating system on my player to be able to rate the never-before-heard music as I hear it, so I know what to do with it later.  But that's just me.   :)
Title: Re: Can you rate music in RockBox?
Post by: Yotto on August 12, 2006, 04:46:27 AM
For me, all new music goes into its own folder, and I move it to the more permanent area when I've decided if it cuts the mustard (Usually on the first listen)
Title: Re: Can you rate music in RockBox?
Post by: Ifthatsthewayitis on August 12, 2006, 08:18:45 AM
I want this really bad so I'm really looking forward to this! And the greatest thing would be a rating exchange possible with MediaMonkey!

Title: Re: Can you rate music in RockBox?
Post by: BigMac on September 03, 2006, 05:13:22 PM
Where can I see my ratings?
Keep ROCking on!
Title: Re: Can you rate music in RockBox?
Post by: Suntiger on September 04, 2006, 05:08:04 PM
Personally, I'd love to see ratings work with Winamp's library somehow... perhaps it could be done by a Winamp plugin to write ratings to ID3 tags, and then Rockbox reading and writing the Rating ID3 tag?

However it works, I think it would be great if it used ID3v2, just for the compatibility thereof.
Title: Re: Can you rate music in RockBox?
Post by: senab on September 04, 2006, 05:12:43 PM
Writing and reading ID3 tags each time would be extremely slow. There's also no tag writing functionality in CVS, and to be honest, it's not really needed.