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Installation / Removal => Manual Installation => Apple - Installation/Removal => Topic started by: shoey on August 06, 2007, 12:54:09 PM
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>:( Well, Do to the fact that my install went wrong in so many ways, my video ipod is now dead. At this point, I just need help installing this *** thing. When I use the boot loader, to uninstall, it always says it cant find an ipod. My ipod is plugged in, and turned off, either stuck at the black apple screen or a screen with an error message, saying it can't find rockbox.ipod. So it says run it in disk mode, well thats another thing thats just **** great, its stuck at the little error screen that tells me to press certain buttons to run it in disk mode, well guess what, doing that doesn't work. I can't put it in **** disk mode, yes all the buttons work, and the ipod is in great conditition. So thats just **** dandy ain't it? I need to run it in disk mode, but the little error won't let me. So what then? I'm ****? Why can't the program just be a damn .exe instead of a long complicated process! Also, GodEater said "Oh your ipod should be plugged into drive /F: or some ****, THERES NO SUCH THING. Great, and thanks again for nothing. I'm just pissed off because this was an expensive ipod, and your little program which shouldn't be released yet, it still has tons of kinks to work out comes and ruins it. I'm not saying its a bad program, it seems good, but the only *** problem is the fact that you need to be a *** einstein to use it. I'll be gracious if you can help me fix it, but I doubt that, I've tried everything.
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Disk mode is handled by the Apple firmware, not rockbox, so it will always work unless you've physically damaged your ipod.
Try getting into disk mode again. You cannot uninstall the bootloader otherwise.
Also, for what its worth, it sounds like the problem is that you skipped the step where you copy rockbox onto your ipod, and so you have no operating system for the bootloader to load.
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Shoey-
1. I can assure you that your iPod is recoverable.
2. However, you need to calm down. I have removed the profanity in your post this time, but I will not do it again. Next time, I will simply delete your post. If you would like our help, we are happy to provide it, but you must read and respect our posting guidelines.
its stuck at the little error screen that tells me to press certain buttons to run it in disk mode, well guess what, doing that doesn't work.
Disk mode will ALWAYS work.
I need to run it in disk mode, but the little error won't let me. So what then? I'm ****?
You need to reset the player. Press and hold the Menu and Select buttons simultaneously until the player restarts. You may need to hold those two buttons for up to 30 seconds before this occurs. As soon as it restarts, press and hold Select and Play/Pause simultaneously. This will enter disk mode.
Why can't the program just be a damn .exe instead of a long complicated process!
There is an installer: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=RockboxUtility
Please feel free to try it out.
I'm just pissed off because this was an expensive ipod, and your little program which shouldn't be released yet, it still has tons of kinks to work out comes and ruins it.
As a point of fact, it has NOT been released yet. The installation instructions in our manual make this clear. You use Rockbox at your own risk. That said, Rockbox has been installed on thousands of iPods and there is not one single case of Rockbox where Rockbox has ruined the iPod.
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I'm certainly much less intelligent than Einstein, but thanks for the compliment. :P
Your iPod is fine. Calm down. You "F"ed up the install, but it's not dead.
Step 1 is to calm down. Step 2 is to take your time. Step 3 is to read everything twice BEFORE you try anything.
I've had an iPod 3G and an iPod 4G running RB in the past and neither has given me any installation problems.
Take her easy. Good luck.
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Im a **** Eintein, because to me is very hard to translate from english to portuguese.
and im actuali ROCKIN DA BOX with rockbox without anny trouble.
i think people have to read MORE often the README.TXT files, the MANUALS (even the ones from apple)
you probabli have the option to lock the HD in you ITUNES set to on .
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Shoey-
1. I can assure you that your iPod is recoverable.
2. However, you need to calm down. I have removed the profanity in your post this time, but I will not do it again. Next time, I will simply delete your post. If you would like our help, we are happy to provide it, but you must read and respect our posting guidelines.
its stuck at the little error screen that tells me to press certain buttons to run it in disk mode, well guess what, doing that doesn't work.
Disk mode will ALWAYS work.
I need to run it in disk mode, but the little error won't let me. So what then? I'm ****?
You need to reset the player. Press and hold the Menu and Select buttons simultaneously until the player restarts. You may need to hold those two buttons for up to 30 seconds before this occurs. As soon as it restarts, press and hold Select and Play/Pause simultaneously. This will enter disk mode.
Why can't the program just be a damn .exe instead of a long complicated process!
There is an installer: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome?topic=RockboxUtility
Please feel free to try it out.
I'm just pissed off because this was an expensive ipod, and your little program which shouldn't be released yet, it still has tons of kinks to work out comes and ruins it.
As a point of fact, it has NOT been released yet. The installation instructions in our manual make this clear. You use Rockbox at your own risk. That said, Rockbox has been installed on thousands of iPods and there is not one single case of Rockbox where Rockbox has ruined the iPod.
Let me explain more precisley what happens. When I turn my ipod on, it remains at the black screen, with the silver apple. It will remain that way, forever, unless I press the hold button. By pressing the hold button, I am brought to a screen that says "error, couldn't find rockbox.ipod". It also says, press and hold menu and select to reboot, then press select and play for disk mode. Here is where I get confused. Still at the black error screen, I press and hold select and play, for over a minute. Nothing. I reboot it, at the silver and black apple screen, I press and hold select. Nope, nothing. WHILE, rebooting I press and hold select and play. No results. I don't know when to press and hold select and play. So if you could give me step by step instructions on WHERE to press and hold select and play I would be greatful. Sorry I was in a pissy mood earlier, I'de like to use rockbox, but Its just to complicated for me.
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Hold Menu+Select. As soon as the screen clears, IMMEDIATELY hold Select+Play. You need to hold them down.
Then you need to go back and read the section of the manual called "Installing the Firmware" because you didn't do the steps in it properly.
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Ok, that is helpful, but I forgot to mention, how will I know when it is in disk mode? What screen should I see? So that I know I did it right.
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It will say "Do not disconnect" or "OK to disconnect," depending on whether you're connected to USB at the time.
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I think its working! I'll keep you all updated, so check back at this thread later.
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Nevermind, now it says that my ipod is corrupt, and needs to be reset, which never happened before. And it won't let me reset it. So rockbox still killed my ipod I guess.. Unless there is a way around this.. Thanks anyways..
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Does your iPod work in Rockbox? What exactly is telling you it's corrupt, because that's not a Rockbox message.
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Don't worry, you can't help anymore. It died. Not rockbox, I uninstalled that, but my ipod died, so its not your guys problem anymore. Thanks anyways.. :'(
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It says my ipod is corrupt in itunes, and when I try to restore it, it says it couldn't find the requested software to preform the task.. I don't know how to manually wipe and or restore it. Its not your guys problem, don't worry about it.
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We do have a page describing how to manually restore an iPod - which might work even if iTunes isn't doing it properly. It will require that you either have a linux PC to hand, or failing that, a linux live CD you can boot your PC with while you do the fix. Are you interested in this ?
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We do have a page describing how to manually restore an iPod - which might work even if iTunes isn't doing it properly. It will require that you either have a linux PC to hand, or failing that, a linux live CD you can boot your PC with while you do the fix. Are you interested in this ?
I would- I have a friend who's iPod started having probs. However, I imagine this process involves reloading the dumped firmware so might not work but perhaps I could find a firmware for the proper gen... Where is the guide? I didn't see it in the docs index.
EDIT: Sorry, found it. Should have searched for it. http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodManualRestore
ADD: Are the versions on the firmware page (http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/) firmware versions or hardware versions? In other words what are the differences between versions and how does one go about choosing between say a 4g 40 gig and 4g 60 gig or are they the same firmware with different partition tables?
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DEAD it is DEAD. And no, I'm not going to do some linux thing thanks anyways, I have enough computer problems as it is..
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ADD: Are the versions on the firmware page (http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/) firmware versions or hardware versions? In other words what are the differences between versions and how does one go about choosing between say a 4g 40 gig and 4g 60 gig or are they the same firmware with different partition tables?
To be perfectly honest, I'm not entirely certain how you're supposed to read the version numbers there. However, I can tell you there's no difference in the firmwares for a specific model that are affected by the disk size. When I did this process some months back I just picked the biggest version number available for my model.
The disk size is handled by the master boot record download that you do from the
IpodConversionToFAT32 (http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/IpodConversionToFAT32) page.
DEAD it is DEAD. And no, I'm not going to do some linux thing thanks anyways, I have enough computer problems as it is..
Well this is your choice of course. I know I'd rather invest the time myself to see if I could rescue a rather expensive purchase.
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DEAD it is DEAD. And no, I'm not going to do some linux thing thanks anyways, I have enough computer problems as it is..
Hmm, download, burn a Knoppix CD, take 10 minutes to perform the process versus waste 300 dollars....
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Hmm, download, burn a Knoppix CD, take 10 minutes to perform the process versus waste 300 dollars....
Exactly my feelings!
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I wouldn't want to lose a nearly $300 player just like this! And the process is so well documented that it'd be hard to muck this up!
shoey: http://www.knoppix.org ; just burn a CD and do the process. It won't harm anything on your PC.
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With my knowledge, this linux thing is impossible.
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What knowledge do you need - the instructions are written out for you?
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With my knowledge, this linux thing is impossible.
Have you actually tried it? Might do you some good to learn something. Go to the link the guy above posted, download a Knoppix ISO, burn it with whatever program you use, then have it in your computer when it turns on. Then Knoppix will start automatically. Then you open up a terminal (it's the black box that you write stuff in) and follow the instructions on the page. People are obviously willing to help you with the process if your willing to actually put some effort in instead of whining.
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With my knowledge, this linux thing is impossible.
There is NOTHING in life that is absolutely impossible! As George McFly once said:
"If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything."
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unfortunately, I cannot explain the procedure step by step. but instead of using linux you SHOULD be able to do it with this: http://www.chrysocome.net/dd
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unfortunately, I cannot explain the procedure step by step. but instead of using linux you SHOULD be able to do it with this: http://www.chrysocome.net/dd
There's no mkfs for Windows is there? I don't know why I'm wasting my time in this thread.
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There's no mkfs for Windows is there? I don't know why I'm wasting my time in this thread.
Why would you need one? mkfs just creates the file system, i.e. formats the disk. And there are similar tools on windows -- if the drive is less than 32GB size you can simply use windows built-in formatting tool. And you can have a look at the wiki which lists various tools: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/UsefulTools#Disk_Utilities