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Installation / Removal => Manual Installation => Iriver - Installation/Removal/Flashing => Topic started by: jcwillia on September 10, 2006, 08:25:25 PM

Title: Stable on H320?
Post by: jcwillia on September 10, 2006, 08:25:25 PM
alright Iriver's damn menu system is already giving me a headache.  I read in the Rockbox manual for the H320 that there's not stable build yet.

how much risk is there by installing rockbox on the H320?

TIA
Title: Re: Stable on H320?
Post by: Febs on September 10, 2006, 08:29:25 PM
Well, there are thousands of people using Rockbox on H300 series jukeboxes, and I believe that there are 0 instances of permanently bricked players.  Rockbox is fairly stable.  It's really not possible to quantify the risk beyond that.  Read the forums here and you can get an idea of whether Rockbox is for you.
Title: Re: Stable on H320?
Post by: Llorean on September 10, 2006, 08:30:37 PM
Somewhere between "Minimal" and "None".

Assuming you're not using the US firmware (as in that case you're guaranteed to lose DRM support as part of the installation) you should be fine. While Rockbox has a bug here or there, it works very well on H300 at this point, and there has never been anything close to a reliable report of Rockbox damaging a player.
Title: Re: Stable on H320?
Post by: jcwillia on September 10, 2006, 08:38:32 PM
i only play mp3's, period - does DRM support mean anything to me?

do i need to flash the firmware or can rockbox run on top of the iriver firmware just like it ran on top of my archos firmware?
Title: Re: Stable on H320?
Post by: Llorean on September 10, 2006, 08:42:36 PM
You have to flash once to install the bootloader. Then once that's done it lives more or less alongside the iRiver firmware. The bootloader by default loads the Rockbox files from disk, but you can tell it to load the iRiver firmware from the rest of flash instead.

If you don't use online music stores, then DRM support means nothing to you, or should mean nothing to you (if you're creating DRMed WMAs for your own personal use, I'd consider you a bit "odd" I think :-P)
Title: Re: Stable on H320?
Post by: jcwillia on September 10, 2006, 08:50:24 PM
so i have to do something other than just throw the rockbox files onto the player and start using it?

(I just want to know because I might not want to do the flash thing yet tonight)
Title: Re: Stable on H320?
Post by: Febs on September 10, 2006, 08:53:30 PM
so i have to do something other than just throw the rockbox files onto the player and start using it?

(I just want to know because I might not want to do the flash thing yet tonight)
Yes.  Click on the link in my signature to the manual.  The installation process is described there.
Title: Re: Stable on H320?
Post by: jcwillia on September 10, 2006, 08:54:37 PM
is one of the international firmwares better than anyother ones?

Thank you BTW - you guys are awesome.
Title: Re: Stable on H320?
Post by: Llorean on September 10, 2006, 08:57:08 PM
The preferred firmwares seem to be 1.29eu or 1.29k because they have video support. Of course, the k one will default to a non-English language (Korean) I believe when you boot it, but has the benefit of not having the volume limiter that I *think* the 1.29eu version has. Of course, if you use Rockbox, it's *very* likely you won't be listening to music in the retail firmware ever again, so it's not that big of a deal.
Title: Re: Stable on H320?
Post by: jcwillia on September 10, 2006, 09:06:56 PM
the player is now bricked
Title: Re: Stable on H320?
Post by: Febs on September 10, 2006, 09:10:06 PM
I doubt that is true, but unless you provide more information, please do not state that it is bricked.  That is actually a violation of the Rockbox Forum Posting Guidelines.
Title: Re: Stable on H320?
Post by: jcwillia on September 10, 2006, 09:12:08 PM
okay, when i loaded the firmware it shut down and now it does not respond to any keys
Title: Re: Stable on H320?
Post by: jcwillia on September 10, 2006, 09:13:38 PM
holy crap! you gotta TELL people there is a reset switch ... MAN THAT SCARED ME...
Title: Re: Stable on H320?
Post by: jcwillia on September 10, 2006, 09:14:59 PM
so sorry - things are fine - just breathe - just so u mods can laugh about this later - i was actually SWEATING...real SWEAT...
Title: Re: Stable on H320?
Post by: Febs on September 10, 2006, 09:18:14 PM
holy crap! you gotta TELL people there is a reset switch ... MAN THAT SCARED ME...
Yeah, we've told people that like a gazillion times.
Title: Re: Stable on H320?
Post by: jcwillia on September 10, 2006, 09:20:37 PM
well its not in the documentation...

ok - player's on button does not respond now with 1.30eu installed - ideas?
Title: Re: Stable on H320?
Post by: jcwillia on September 10, 2006, 09:23:28 PM
i think when i reset it the firmware reverted?  does that make sense?

how do i do this the right way now that i've scared myself silly already once?
Title: Re: Stable on H320?
Post by: jcwillia on September 10, 2006, 09:34:18 PM
apologies to all - i've got it working now - anyone have a link to a favorite WPS settings they would like to share?
Title: Re: Stable on H320?
Post by: Febs on September 10, 2006, 09:56:21 PM
http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/WpsIriverH300
Title: Re: Stable on H320?
Post by: kjbull on September 25, 2006, 04:54:02 AM
The preferred firmwares seem to be 1.29eu or 1.29k because they have video support. Of course, the k one will default to a non-English language (Korean) I believe when you boot it, but has the benefit of not having the volume limiter that I *think* the 1.29eu version has. Of course, if you use Rockbox, it's *very* likely you won't be listening to music in the retail firmware ever again, so it's not that big of a deal.

It seems like the korean version is the one preferred by "the iRiver community", and it wasn't any big deal to change from korean to english all over. But - does anyone know if there is any advantage in upgrading to the 1.30, that I see the is out in eu version (I have the 1.29k now)?

When it comes to the use of the retail firmware, I think you're wrong. No matter how good Rockbox is in theory, it's still not my preferred user interface when playing radio and mp3. I guess quite a lot of people are like me - Rockbox is great for lossless recording and FLAC playback, but for most other use, I prefer the original user interface. The user interface of Rockbox is a bit too "old computer" to me.

Kjetil
Title: Re: Stable on H320?
Post by: Llorean on September 25, 2006, 05:03:39 AM
So, you're saying "How the $300 music player looks is more important to me than its music playing capabilities and its battery life?"

Because saying that its interface is too "old computer" pretty much says that to me.

Anyway, if I recall 1.30eu actually removes the video function, something to do with tax rules, or I dunno.