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Rockbox Development => New Ports => Topic started by: SkeIIy on September 19, 2021, 10:14:28 AM

Title: S1 MP3 Player(s)
Post by: SkeIIy on September 19, 2021, 10:14:28 AM
I created an account specifically to ask about these things.

Even though in the rules it says that port requests are forbidden, I feel like that should be the exception for these things, as the problem of varying parts for one set of them wouldn't be one anymore.

There's also now a scarce amount of information about these types of players. Almost any resource about them have been pretty much dead for years now, despite these players being just as common as they were years ago.

Is there still any hope for any of these players now?
Title: Re: S1 MP3 Player(s)
Post by: saratoga on September 19, 2021, 10:44:24 AM
Do you mean these S1 MP3 players from 10-15 years ago?

https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6283.5
Title: Re: S1 MP3 Player(s)
Post by: SkeIIy on September 19, 2021, 10:49:56 AM
Those, and some newer ones that have apparently been made or produced around 2013-2015, which is mine.
Title: Re: S1 MP3 Player(s)
Post by: saratoga on September 19, 2021, 10:53:18 AM
The old ones have simple 8 bit CPUs which cannot run rockbox.  No idea about newer ones.
Title: Re: S1 MP3 Player(s)
Post by: SkeIIy on September 19, 2021, 11:01:08 AM
Well, I found a post that had the same specs to mine. Here it is:

https://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=34071.5;wap2
Title: Re: S1 MP3 Player(s)
Post by: SkeIIy on September 19, 2021, 02:59:03 PM
Bah, I've re-read it. It does still have the stupid 8-bit core.

I've looked everywhere around the internet to find some way to make my MP3 player not look like garbage. The original S1MP3 website is a shell, basically containing a version of S1FWX and S1RES that can't make use of any of the newer S1 Players because development stopped around 2009, and players were starting to not work around 2011, hence the date.

Hopefully, someone with some more expertise in coding and interest in these cheap players could try something again. I say again as there were attempts before, such as:

https://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-dev-archive-2007-08/0040.shtml
And project SWAN. (On Archived S1MP3 wiki, currently unavailable.)
Title: Re: S1 MP3 Player(s)
Post by: saratoga on September 19, 2021, 05:11:35 PM
I vaguely remember that some basic tools existed for changing logos and text on s1mp3 players, but I don't think there was much more than that. You could spend hundreds or thousands of hours reverse engineering your players and developing new software for it, but since it's a 15 years old platform with very limited hardware, it probably makes more sense to buy something modern with a conventional CPU if you want to get into firmware development.

Regardless, no rockbox port, and anyway this is a duplicate of the older threads on the s1, so I'm closing this.