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philibuster:

--- Quote ---"vorbis comments" is the tagging format used in FLAC files, I wasn't talking about Ogg files (vorbis comments are used there as well though).
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oh... right.


--- Quote ---Why do you think it's better to read the cuesheet tag?  The FLAC specification seems to be encouraging the use of the CUESHEET block along with tags like the cue_trackNN* tags foobar is adding.
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I think it's better to read the cuesheet tag solely because that's what foobar does. But in the name of compliance, it's probably better to read the cuesheet block.

Just thinking about it again, I think that reading the cuesheet tag is easier because it uses the min:sec:frames that all cuesheets use and thus can use the same cuesheet parser that the cuesheet file reader uses.

But I just looked at another cuesheet from the "--export-cuesheet-to=" option, and it says this:

--- Code: ---FILE "Danielson Famile - Tri-Danielson.flac" FLAC
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:21:44
    INDEX 01 00:21:45
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 03:19:11
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 05:05:31
    INDEX 01 05:05:32
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 07:12:42
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 10:12:63
  TRACK 07 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 11:49:03
  TRACK 08 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 15:25:13
  TRACK 09 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 18:32:68
  TRACK 10 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 22:06:00
  TRACK 11 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 28:21:02
  TRACK 12 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 32:12:23
  TRACK 13 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 33:56:53
REM FLAC__lead-in 88200
REM FLAC__lead-out 170 103261032

--- End code ---
Curiously, this one is in min:sec:frames, while the other one was in samples.  I don't know why.  Perhaps because the other one was 48khz sampling, and this one is 44.1khz (cd source). Wow, cuesheets are kind of crazy...


--- Quote ---Also, do you know of any applications apart from foobar with support for FLACs with embedded cues?
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Nope... Not any players, but burrrn (http://www.burrrn.net) supports it.

adam917:

--- Quote from: philibuster on April 13, 2007, 09:39:18 PM ---
--- Quote ---"vorbis comments" is the tagging format used in FLAC files, I wasn't talking about Ogg files (vorbis comments are used there as well though).
--- End quote ---
oh... right.


--- Quote ---Why do you think it's better to read the cuesheet tag?  The FLAC specification seems to be encouraging the use of the CUESHEET block along with tags like the cue_trackNN* tags foobar is adding.
--- End quote ---
I think it's better to read the cuesheet tag solely because that's what foobar does. But in the name of compliance, it's probably better to read the cuesheet block.

Just thinking about it again, I think that reading the cuesheet tag is easier because it uses the min:sec:frames that all cuesheets use and thus can use the same cuesheet parser that the cuesheet file reader uses.

But I just looked at another cuesheet from the "--export-cuesheet-to=" option, and it says this:

--- Code: ---FILE "Danielson Famile - Tri-Danielson.flac" FLAC
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:21:44
    INDEX 01 00:21:45
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 03:19:11
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 05:05:31
    INDEX 01 05:05:32
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 07:12:42
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 10:12:63
  TRACK 07 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 11:49:03
  TRACK 08 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 15:25:13
  TRACK 09 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 18:32:68
  TRACK 10 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 22:06:00
  TRACK 11 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 28:21:02
  TRACK 12 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 32:12:23
  TRACK 13 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 33:56:53
REM FLAC__lead-in 88200
REM FLAC__lead-out 170 103261032

--- End code ---
Curiously, this one is in min:sec:frames, while the other one was in samples.  I don't know why.  Perhaps because the other one was 48khz sampling, and this one is 44.1khz (cd source). Wow, cuesheets are kind of crazy...


--- Quote ---Also, do you know of any applications apart from foobar with support for FLACs with embedded cues?
--- End quote ---
Nope... Not any players, but burrrn (http://www.burrrn.net) supports it.



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Well, Cuesheets were initially created only for CD burning layout. I never seen them Cuesheet tags in a FLAC file but I know the standard is that metadata block that specifies samples & no artist/title/composer.

mc_365:
I am just getting into flac (Lossless) mainly do to the falling ratio of $/GB on HDs

I don't know to much about Cue sheet block and such, I've delayed archiving my library as I research pros and cons and tools.

I found the most knowlegeable place for any flac info (tech specs), to be hydrogenaudio's fourms.

Many developers of flac ecoders and decoders and tagging tools like metamp3 frequent this site and are very helpful with wide range of questions.

Most likely many of you devs know of this site but just chiming in.

Thanks to all of you who make rockbox

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