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Tagnavi being silly

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Toxikator:
this is more a curious question than a real problem, so don't worry too much about it...

What I'll sometimes do is set Rockbox to shuffle all the songs on my iPod (5G, in case it matters later) by turning on "shuffle", selecting the database's "tracks" view, and choosing a song... from there it builds a playlist of all my songs.

Over time, I started putting on more audiobooks, comedy, et al.. so I went ahead and tagged them all as "spoken word" and then figured I'd set up Tagnavi accordingly.

I created a submenu under "Track" with two categories... one, called "All", which just has the command 'title', and one called "music", with the command 'title ? genre != "spoken word"'

It works fine, with one little curiosity: for some reason, the tracks are shuffled when you select the "music" tab.

Originally (and now, under the "all" tab), the tracks all appear in alphabetical order.. but under the music tab, they start with 'V', and then jump all over the place in what is sometimes (but not ALL the time) a semblance of alphabetical order.

It's no big deal since I usually use it just to shuffle tracks so not having them in order is irrelevant from a practical standpoint, but I am puzzled by the behaviour. What causes the random order?

bascule:
This shouldn't happen.

What format string are you using (title = "fmt_xxxx")? This is what should determione how they are sorted.

Toxikator:
no format string... Tagnavi  never did. I just said "title". I have the fmt_title string for the Album and Artist category since the track number is important. But in the original tagnavi file it didn't include the format string so I left it out.  :-\

bascule:
The only other thing I think it can be is your Sort Files setting:
[Main Menu]>Settings>General Settings>File View>Sort Files

This determines the default sorting, even for the Database view. If it is anything other than Alphabetical, then it may cause what you are seeing.

If not, ???

Toxikator:
It's set properly, and as I said it's only the "title ? genre != "spoken word"" bit that does it.

The other submenu option (the one that goes straight "title" still comes out in alphabetical order".

Looking over it, I kind of wonder if it's doing a genre>title sort? as in, the reason Tool's Viginti Tres appears first is it's GENRE is alphabetically first, and the genres are sorted, and the tracks within them then sorted? I mean, it WOULD explain the distinciton (since only one of the submenu options is being told to do anything with the genre tag to begin with)...

If it's a bug, I can work around it by removing the other genre tags... otherwise, I'll make the necessary tagnavi sorting change.

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