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cpchan:
--- Quote from: Llorean on May 17, 2007, 03:19:26 PM ---cpchan: What exactly was your point, your quote is unclear as to who you're saying is wrong, and specifically, why you think that document explains that one of us is wrong.
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My point is that analog media does not clip the same way as digital media does. I quote from this article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war):
--- Quote ---Analog media, on the other hand, "bend" the signal as it exceeds its saturation point (also marked as 0dB). Such distortion can be utilized in the digital realm as well, either by transferring audio processed with tape or valve saturation to a digital recording medium, or by using computer software to emulate the effect (this process is often referred to as "bitcrunching" or "soft clipping"). This analog distortion results in harmonics that can appear to the listener as a discreet "crackle" or "fuzz" within the sound. The effect can vary depending on the sound itself, as well as the amount and kind of distortion used. Because analog distortion doesn't "flatline" to the extent that clipping does, the results are less harsh-sounding and can result in a desirable "warmth" to the recording, at the cost of slightly less transient response.
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Charles
Llorean:
Yes, and MP3s are digital media.
cpchan:
--- Quote from: Llorean on May 17, 2007, 04:08:28 PM ---Yes, and MP3s are digital media.
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Yes, I know. That is why I made the distinction between digital and analog in my post.
Charles
Llorean:
Well the thing is, even the quotation you made points out that above 0dB, analog also distorts but it's not the same sort of distortion, and some people consider it pleasant. Both distort, it's just different types of distortion, so the fact that you say it's ontly for digital is incorrect.
saratoga:
--- Quote from: cpchan on May 17, 2007, 04:07:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: Llorean on May 17, 2007, 03:19:26 PM ---cpchan: What exactly was your point, your quote is unclear as to who you're saying is wrong, and specifically, why you think that document explains that one of us is wrong.
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My point is that analog media does not clip the same way as digital media does. I quote from this article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war):
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1) That has nothing to do with anything in this thread.
2) Its still clipping, so the distinction is rather pointless.
Edit: bah, another crappy link that draws PCM with straight lines between the points. I wish people who don't understand what a DAC does would stop writing about them.
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