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EMI to drop DRM from iTunes.

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Llorean:
Well, what reasonable step is there, that doesn't include DRM, or in some way marking a file so that a user can't safely redistribute it?

I think it's a bit paranoid to be afraid of having your name on the files. Someone could just as easily fake the tag on the files so that you're incriminated for somebody else' music being distribute. Or I as forum moderator could take your email address, create an identity on a filesharing client, access it from an open hotspot such as a local restaurant, and distribute files.

There are really limits to how paranoid you can be. How many times has your MP3 player been stolen? If your MP3 player IS stolen, what do you think are the odds of the person who stole it then taking your music and distributing it on a filesharing client? Then from that step, what are the odds that you can't establish that their internet connection is clearly not your internet connection, and that the police have a report of your MP3 player being stolen X months ago, and none of the songs shared were purchased after that time?

It just seems like a stretch to feel that putting your name on the files is unreasonable, as that's the most reasonable step I can imagine them taking to protect their copyright but still allow you absolute freedom of use of the file.

Can you suggest a better step they can take?

PaulJam:
The example with the stolen player was just an example. There are various ways how someone else could get access to your musicfiles.

Let's just argee upon the fact that i'm overly paranoid and end this discussion (it isn't rockbox related anyway).

JonathanHull:
You can always strip the information out if it matters that much. There are tools to do it.

Raineer:

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I'm fine with my iTunes account name in it, so Apple can yell at me/sue me whenever they want (and therefore THEY know the email, contact info, etc.) I'm not happy about the email embedded inside it, for no other reason that it sets a bad precedent. If the attitude is "well what do you care you should protect your music", you can guarantee they won't stop at email. This will become a marketing deal where they embed you likes/dislikes and tailor ads to it when you play it, all that crap.

As for
--- Quote ---You can always strip the information out if it matters that much. There are tools to do it.
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, well that's how I got my iTunes library here in the first place.  It wasn't legal and somehow I doubt Apple would view modifying these files as such either.

tdtooke:
You have a user key and your name embedded in the file, use a hex editor to write x's to that or something.  You also have a few incriminating tags that any decent tag editor can remove.  Just in case somebody wants to know the specific's of how iTunes did things in their old .m4p files other than the drm, I imagine they're doing the same things on the newer ones without DRM's.  I found that the latest QTFairUse addresses all of these issues.

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