Ipod Video 30Gb, wont boot

[Deth20]

Hi i installed yesterdays build of rockbox and it worked fine all day....i come home...next day my ipod wont respond at all....my first thought is...."hmm, low battery" ok i plug it in to my charger and nothing happens....the only thing that i hear is some strange ticking noise from my ipod.

plz help me

[Febs]

Having you tried resetting it by pressing and holding the Menu and Select buttons simultaneously?

Also, please note that our forum guidelines require the use of proper English.  Please avoid using abbreviations like "plz" and do not use ellipses where periods are appropriate.

[Deth20]

Yes, i've tried reset and going into disk-mode. Nothing happens i only hear ticks. It sounds like the ipod is trying to boot but isn't able to. The sound is really hard to hear, i have to put my ipod to my ear to hear it.

I'm kind of confused, because it worked perfectly yesterday!

[Febs]

If you haven't already done so, I would try leaving it plugged into the charger for a couple of hours.  It's possible that your hard drive is bad, but if that were the case, you would probably at the very least get the initial apple splash screen.

Once you've let it charge for a period of time, trying flipping the hold switch on and then off again, and re-try the reset sequence.

[Deth20]

Ok, have done that nothing happens, only hear the same ticking inside the ipod i heard 12h ago. I see nothing on the screen the only thing that happens is i hear that ticking close to the bottom-connector of the ipod, I suspect it might be a capacitor or a inductor. That is powering up and releasing, I'm thinking of a DC-DC converter. But i haven't read that much about all of the components that ipod has.

I'm beginning to think it would be wise for me to wait until the battery runs out, or i open my ipod and disconnect the battery. This is starting to annoy me!

[Sambolina3]

Have you tried plugging it into your computer instead of a charger???

[Deth20]

Does'nt matter what i do, its likely dead. But i have still hope that it will work in about 36hours or more. Because now I'm hearing a really high frequency noise + the ticking. Thats good proof that it might be a capacitor of the DC-DC converter (they usually develop high frequency noise)

[Deth20]

3 days now! For 3 days, I'm only hearing this sound from my ipod

(Change the file name to .mp3 instead of .txt, The forum doesnt allow mp3 files, even if its for a good cause)
(Yes i know, my computer has really loud fans. But you can hear the ticking clearly)

[attachment deleted by admin, too old]

[Llorean]

The forum doesn't allow MP3 files, because the forums are for DISCUSSION.

For bug reports, you report the bug in the proper place, and attach the file THERE. Which DOES allow MP3 files.

It's not an issue of "cause", it's an issue of "Nobody has yet come up with a proper reason to attach an MP3 here, but does so anyway blatantly ignoring the fact that it's not allowed."

There's also plenty of alternative hosting for files out there. Our forums have a very limited amount of space available for attachments, which is why it's primarily limited to text and text-like formats.

[Sambolina3]

Way to stick it to the man Llorean.  Deth 20 have you called apple by any chance?  Are you even getting a sad ipod face or anything???  Mabye its just the ipod display, did you leave it in excessive cold or something?

[Deth20]

Nope, I haven't called them yet.

The only sad face i see is when i look in the mirror :]
I've never ever left my ipod in excessive cold/heat, it has barely any fingerprints/scratches on the display. When it comes to mp3-players, mobiles and so on, i treat them like they were my first born sons.

Right now i starting to think that RB did not shutdown correctly and is stuck in a loop, that would maybe explain the ticking sound.

[Llorean]

If your iPod were still running, turning hold On and Off, then holding Menu+Select for 30 seconds would reboot it. This is a hardware feature. That means no matter what software is running, if your iPod will do it. If you do it, see the Apple screen, then the ticking starts, that means that your iPod has rebooted. If you don't see the Apple screen, either you haven't done it properly or your iPod is physically damaged in some way or another. Nothing you've said here in any way suggests "Rockbox hasn't shut down correctly" as if that were the case you'd still be able to reboot it with Menu+Select.

[Deth20]

We'll i agree on the part that menu+select is a hardware feature but only if the processor counter is running. But in this case it is clearly a problem were the clock is locked in a endless loop, and is apparently waiting for a answer.

You say there is no kind of proof it's the shutdown that is the problem. Well hmmm lets see, last thing i did was turn of rockbox. It is not likely that this is a problem of "physical-damage" or me "reseting properly".
Because:
A: I have reset ipods before, and run apples diagnostic-tool (right+select)
B: I treat my mp3player like my children, no scratches or physical-damage.
C: I always carry the ipod in the inner pocket of my jacket. And always have the cover on.

[Llorean]

And you're assuming that "I treat my iPod well" means "A component can't fail"?

How is it "clearly" a problem where the clock is locked in an endless loop? Do you have access to the memory state of your iPod? Have you looked at the Rockbox shutdown code and identified any code there that could even, possibly, cause the problem you're describing?

I'm being very critical here, but you're jumping to a conclusion without developing how you've come to it other than "I hear this noise". You're blaming Rockbox on the assumption that hardware can't be faulty. Please, investigate further before blaming software that does the same thing every shutdown, and hasn't caused this problem in over a year of shutting down iPods for anyone else.

And as a note: Please detail to me the exact, WHOLE process you used to try to reset the iPod. It's possible to reset the iPod without performing the proper process, but there are additional steps that help in situations where the simple "Menu+Select" on their own do not work.

[Deth20]

I feel that you only like to criticize my hypothesis, I maybe haven't look into the code as you have. But know some assembler/PIC programming. I base my knowledge from that.

My hypothesis have only been based on observation of what i see and hear. I have never had any proof of what i have said, and obviously a intelligent person can see it without point that out.

My ipod works now, after 5long days. There is nothing wrong with it. Ran diagnostic check, everything is fine.