wish: return to directory last played

[AlexP]

You do realize that when you start the first one, you can simply queue the second album so you never even have to go back to the filetree, right?

It sounds like we're in another "Flexibility" vs "Convenience" situation. =/

Yeah I know, but often I decide when the one I'm listening to has finished.  As I've said before it's not a huge deal, just one of those things that I would prefer to be another way.  

After all to get from anywhere in the file tree to the menu is one click of a button, but to get from the menu to somewhere in the middle of the filetree takes much longer.  Consequently, if end of plaback returned you to the file tree and the song that has just finished if I wanted to go somewhere completely different it is only one click to be the same as the current system and get to the main menu, but would be more convenient if I wanted to select an artist or album close in name to the one I was on.

[Llorean]

If you're already IN the filetree when playback ends, if you tap the one click to go to the menu, and then choose Filetree, you should return to the same spot you were in the filetree. The filetree is supposed to remember your position, so your statement doesn't work as you thought it did.

[AlexP]

OK, we both seem to be right.  What you say is true if you don't shut down half way through and then resume.  Position in file tree doesn't seem to be remembered across restarts.

[Llorean]

Yes, it's not remembered across restarts.

I do think that if you have "Follow Playlist" on, when the playlist ends the WPS should drop you in the filetree no matter where you called the WPS from though. Follow Playlist seems like it should be an override to that behaviour, I just don't think it needs to affect the file browser entry in the Main Menu at all.

I think that'd solve most of your problems with it anyway.

[AlexP]

Yes, it's not remembered across restarts.

I do think that if you have "Follow Playlist" on, when the playlist ends the WPS should drop you in the filetree no matter where you called the WPS from though. Follow Playlist seems like it should be an override to that behaviour, I just don't think it needs to affect the file browser entry in the Main Menu at all.

I think that'd solve most of your problems with it anyway.

I completely agree!  

Is it technically possible to remember position across restarts?  I would have thought so - another setting in nvram.bin?  If so, I'll pop a feature request up as that would solve virtually all my annoyances.

[Llorean]

It's technically possible to remember anything you want across restarts, though whether others will agree it's necessary is a second question.

I would suggest filing a separate feature request for "Have follow playlist overried where the WPS leaves you when a playlist ends" too, assuming there's not one up there that translates to that clearly.

[AlexP]

Done http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6882 and done http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6883.

[LinusN]

I think it would be useful for the file browser to remember the position across restarts.

[heze]

If the forum is not the proper place for feature requests, where is it else?

Flyspray.

Look at the menu down the left hand side of the screen. There's a link there that says "feature requests". Is this somehow unintuitive ?

No, it isn't!

But it seems, that my post set on this discussion again. And it seems, that this is more effective than just to place a feature request...

However, many thanks to the guys who placed that request! And thank you to Linus for his comment "I think it would be useful for the file browser to remember the position across restarts." That mades me optimistic, that this will quicken the changes.

Thanks in advance to the developer(s) who will implement this feature, and we are looking forward...

[Febs]

But it seems, that my post set on this discussion again. And it seems, that this is more effective than just to place a feature request...

More efficient in generating discussion?  Yes.  More efficient in actually getting the change made?  No.

[JdGordon]

I think it would be useful for the file browser to remember the position across restarts.

I dont think this should be the default behavour, but if te start screen is set to the file browser then im OK with this also.
edit: I had a quick look at doing this and it can be done in two ways.. neither is very nice :p

The first is moving the current_folder buffer from root_menu.c into global_settings (or glabal_status) the other is doing "extern char *current_folder" in settings_list.c

[Falco98]

But it seems, that my post set on this discussion again. And it seems, that this is more effective than just to place a feature request...

More efficient in generating discussion?  Yes.  More efficient in actually getting the change made?  No.

here's a feature-request-but-not-really:  how about a new subforum specifically for the discussion of existing and/or hypothetical feature requests?  the forum is the first place many people come, and IMHO is quite a bit easier to hold long conversations in.  and multiple actual feature requests can be discussed together in one forum topic, per peoples' preference.  Consider that many more novice users may have good ideas for feature requests, but which may need input and discussion to be boiled down to something feasible, and perhaps more experienced users could occasionally take up the task of drafting the request in FS.  I can think of no real reason not to provide such an option, anyway...

also, hopefully the general discussion area wouldn't be quite as cluttered (knock on wood) with feature requests...

[Llorean]

So, if someone had an idea for a User Interface improvement, and wanted feedback for it before filing a proper feature request, why wouldn't they just post:

"I'm kinda thinking the user interface could be improved by having the main menu keep track of how many times you've clicked on each item, ever, and sort them based upon that so that which item you use the most automatically drifts toward the top. Before I file a request for this, anyone see any real problems with it, or have any improvements upon it?"

I don't disallow discussion of feature requests in their proper place, and having it this way means that people interested in User Interface know where to look for everything UI related rather than just some of it. I'm not sure how a feature request forum would improve anything other than by confusing people into thinking it's the proper place to file feature requests when it's not.

People are already bad enough about posting them in the right place without another ambiguity thrown into the mix.

[Falco98]

well i guess part of my idea is that if there were a forum, it could kinda be a catch-all for users who may have a good feature request idea in general, but might not know enough about the workings of the software to be able to set up an official FR correctly, or perhaps just have a more experienced user do it for them.  Of course you may be right, that it would just be redundant and confusing in a way, but I think it's possible that it could do positive things enough to outweigh those worries.  Dunno, but maybe it's something to think about (unless of course it's been debated already ages ago, which wouldn't surprise me)...

[JdGordon]

that sounds exactly like http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php?type=1