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Offline shifty

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Using COP with IPL Loader2 (reinstall with Rockbox BootLoader) 5G iPod
« on: February 11, 2007, 07:42:26 PM »
Hello,

I am running an iPod 5G tribooted with Apple FW, IPL and Rockbox.  I was wanting to use an experimental build of Rockbox to try out the cop patch, but the disclaimer said I needed to update the Rockbox bootloader, but since I installed IPL before Rockbox I am running the IPL Loader2.  

Will the cop patch only work with the new Rockbox loader and if so can I still triboot with the Rockbox Loader.


Thanks for all the help and all the work that goes on around here.

Peace


-S
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Offline mikeage

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Re: Using COP with IPL Loader2 (reinstall with Rockbox BootLoader) 5G iPod
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2007, 08:52:41 PM »
That's a bit of a problem. It appears that the the COP patch requires the newer rockbox bootloader (the one ending in .ipod), and not 2.4 of the iPL (or the older style (.bin) bootloader). Conversely, the newer bootloader seems to have some issues with booting the original firmware.

See http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6629 for some more info.
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Re: Using COP with IPL Loader2 (reinstall with Rockbox BootLoader) 5G iPod
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2007, 09:00:20 PM »
The Rockbox bootloader will also boot IPL, you just won't have the "fancy" menu.
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Offline linuxstb

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Re: Using COP with IPL Loader2 (reinstall with Rockbox BootLoader) 5G iPod
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2007, 09:32:00 PM »
The current (SVN) version of loader2 starts Rockbox properly (i.e. with the COP under control), just not the very old 2.4 release of loader2.

The current Rockbox bootloader only appears to have issues with the original firmware on the 4g greyscale and both mini generations - on all other ipods, dual-boot is fine.
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Re: Using COP with IPL Loader2 (reinstall with Rockbox BootLoader) 5G iPod
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2007, 09:58:48 PM »
FWIW (and I know this isn't a Loader2 forum), the new version is available from http://www.ipodlinux.org/Loader2 under the name http://www.ipodlinux.org/Image:Ipodloader2-2.5d6.tar.gz, and I can confirm that it loaders COP just fine!

I believe it has to be used with the old ipod_fw method, and (probably) the old ipodpatcher as well.
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Offline LurkAzusa

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Re: Using COP with IPL Loader2 (reinstall with Rockbox BootLoader) 5G iPod
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2007, 11:45:47 PM »
I loaded the 2.5 loader from the link using the old ipodpatcher and ipod_fw method, but it won't load rockbox or apple properly.

I wish there was a way in the Rockbox bootloader to choose to load apple by default and rockbox with the hold switch.   I have an integrated ipod solution for my Prius that shows the artist/album/title on the nav screen and is controlled by the touch screen and/or steering wheel.  It has to boot to apple to use this.  The Loader2 helps a lot.
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Re: Using COP with IPL Loader2 (reinstall with Rockbox BootLoader) 5G iPod
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2007, 12:02:18 AM »
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=6356.msg63702

Hold is not available for use, since it clears the rockbox config.
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Offline linuxstb

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Re: Using COP with IPL Loader2 (reinstall with Rockbox BootLoader) 5G iPod
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2007, 06:13:38 AM »
You can install loader2 with the current (0.8) version of ipodpatcher:

ipodpatcher -ab loader.bin

(if you have a broken installation, it's probably best to restore your firmware partition first).
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Offline LurkAzusa

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Re: Using COP with IPL Loader2 (reinstall with Rockbox BootLoader) 5G iPod
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2007, 10:02:45 AM »
Thanks for the explanation of the ipodpatcher option.  Are there others?  It is amazing how automatic the installation is now with ipodpatcher.  Great job!
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Re: Using COP with IPL Loader2 (reinstall with Rockbox BootLoader) 5G iPod
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2007, 10:04:31 AM »
Typing "ipodpatcher -h" will give you the list of options.  I'll try to document them in more detail soon...
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