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Offline qables

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Zune dock connector pin out thread
« on: January 26, 2007, 03:33:39 PM »
I have some Zune dock connectors available like the iPod ones to build some custom cables.

Any body familiar with the pin out yet?

Would appreciate any help.

Thanks

edit:  maybe we can post our findings here and eventualy get the full pin out?

« Last Edit: January 26, 2007, 04:09:11 PM by qables »
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Offline markun

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Re: Zune dock connector pin out thread
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2007, 08:18:24 AM »
Hi qables!

We (the Gigabeat guys) have the pinout for our players, but can't find a place to buy the connectors is small numbers to make a custom dock.

The conenctor we need is the QL11203-C638-7F from Foxconn, is this by any chance the same one as the Zune has?

The pinout can be found here: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main//GigabeatPortPins#Dock_connector
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Offline toffe

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Re: Zune dock connector pin out thread
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2007, 01:15:03 AM »
Markun, don't you remember, we said that there were different connector.
The zune is more like the one of the ipod.

But qables can perhaps help us to find the one we need.

qables can you help us?
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Offline qables

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Re: Zune dock connector pin out thread
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2007, 03:43:00 PM »
Well I have a limited number available and soon I will get a big new batch.
I will post the link here as soon as they are on our website, www.qables.com

The Zune is like the iPod only a 24 pin (the iPod is a 30 pin)
None of the tables correspond with what I have found so far for the dock connector pin out.

Is any of them the Zune or are they different players?

Rgds


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Offline qables

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Re: Zune dock connector pin out thread
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2007, 03:44:32 PM »
Quote from: toffe on January 28, 2007, 01:15:03 AM
Markun, don't you remember, we said that there were different connector.
The zune is more like the one of the ipod.

But qables can perhaps help us to find the one we need.

qables can you help us?

If you specify the player I could see if I can get the right connector. I have acces to a Chinese manufacturer.

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Offline toffe

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Re: Zune dock connector pin out thread
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2007, 06:00:23 PM »
hi qables,

The connector we are looking for is the QL11203-C638-7F from Foxconn.
This connector is the one used on the dock station of the Toshiba gigabeat F series.
There is a version of this connector for cable but I didn't find any reference for it
You can find it on the cable for the Toshiba PDA E800 see this link : http://www.toshibadirect.com/td/b2c/adet.to?coid=-27312&poid=265291

I contacted Foxconn directly but the minimum quantity for order was to much for me.

If you can find us ever the dock one or the cable one in small quantities it would be great, we are waiting for this to finish develop some interface for the gigabeat serie F.

Thank you for your help
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Offline qables

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Re: Zune dock connector pin out thread
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2007, 03:40:31 AM »
The Toshiba PDA E400/E800 is the same connector as the Axim X5, it is a 20 pin connector.

It can be delivered I will check the price for single pieces. Any idea how much?

Maybe make some pre order thread?

Rgds

Hans
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Offline markun

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Re: Zune dock connector pin out thread
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2007, 04:13:08 AM »
The Axim has a QL11203-C631 afaik which is not the same.
Also, we have a 40 pin connector, not 20.

So, do you still think you can get us some of those QL11203-C638-7F ?
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Offline qables

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Re: Zune dock connector pin out thread
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2007, 04:40:33 AM »
Well then we are not speaking the same language here I guess.
The link of the Toshiba cable you provided earlier has a 20 pin connector.

I am checking the foxconn type nbr you gave me, it seems to be an SMT type, I will keep doing my best, I am sorry if it does not goes quick enough.

BTW I am still looking for the Zune pin out table, that is why I started this thread.

rgds
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Offline markun

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Re: Zune dock connector pin out thread
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2007, 08:22:56 AM »
Quote from: qables on January 29, 2007, 04:40:33 AM
BTW I am still looking for the Zune pin out table, that is why I started this thread.

I'm afraid I can't help you with the Zune. Did you try some Zune forums for help with the tracing?

Quote from: qables on January 29, 2007, 04:40:33 AM
I am sorry if it does not goes quick enough.

Don't worry man :)

btw, I started a wiki page for our custom dock: http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/GigabeatCustomdock
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Offline toffe

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Re: Zune dock connector pin out thread
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2007, 10:50:40 AM »
Hi qables

I can tell you that the link I gave you is good, the connector on the cable is a double row 20 pins (so 40 pins total) and is the same as the dock one.(ok it is not smt mount, there are different model, actually, I have 2 differents cable mount connector )

As I have a pda E800, I can confirm this and I unsold the one I have to make the test on the gigabeat

Like markun said, the axim is different.

thanks for your help
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Offline xsirex

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Re: Zune dock connector pin out thread
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2008, 12:12:04 AM »
Zune pinouts can be found here:

http://www.zuneboards.com/forums/zune-hacks-mods/11079-zune-pinouts.html?highlight=pinout
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Offline ashrond

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Re: Zune dock connector pin out thread
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2008, 11:37:39 PM »
hi qcables!
i am interested in buying 2 or 3 zune dock extension cables.
i need to connect the zune to the dock however because of where i am planning on putting it i cannot put it directly on its dock.
i need the dock for the inferred, video out and charging, please pm me with the details and i will be happy do discuss some sort of arrangement.

thanks
-ashrond
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Offline qables

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Re: Zune dock connector pin out thread
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2008, 10:17:17 AM »
Well I have found the pin out.

13 and 14 are L and R.

Unfortunately the true line out can only be activated by an original certified microsoft dock :(

rgds

zune connectors are for sale but not extension cables. Sorry
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Offline Chronon

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Re: Zune dock connector pin out thread
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2008, 05:15:34 PM »
It looks like xsirex has pointed to a forum that addresses the pinout for the Zune.  I don't think this has any further overlap with Rockbox at the moment.  Contact me if you have a reason that you think it should be reopened.
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