iriver h10 20GB issues?

[coteyr]

Wasn't quite sure where to put this. The unsupported thread seems to be for announcments only. I also didn't want to file bug reports beause the dev of this build seems to be pretty active and as a devoloper my self I understand not wanting the extra paper work for issues you already know about. On top of that These "issues" might be 100% my fault. I am sure at least a few of them are.

First some of the big things.

1. Battery life seems to be really bad, around 3-4 hours. What settings can I change to lengthen my play time. Yes my WPS has images (22 to be excat) EQ is off and all the power saving settings seem to be real low. (HD spindown at 3s etc).

2. The device seems to lock up randomly for no reason. I can not seem to find corelation between device lockupas and anything else. File formats have been diffrent, as have time between lockups. Sometimes it happens in the middle of a song some times at the end. However it does seem to only happen during playback. The uisimulator does not have this issue (it seems). But I don't know how much of the UI sim is emulated hardware,

3. This one has to be my fault. The Database doesn't work all the time. I am wondering what settings would be best to keep this working. for example. I power on the device, wait for it to scan the hard drive (around 30 seconds-ish) it updates the database and then I browse/search for the artist I want. Then I Play their music. lets say an hour in I don't want to listen to that artest anymore, so I go back to the data base and try to search/browse but all I get is "Database no ready" I have tried various things to fix this but the only relibal way to fix it is to power off the device and start it up again. Even update now from the options screen wont get it working.
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4. Now sort of a general question. As I understand it the 2nd CPU on this decive is not currently in use. Would useing this CPU increse or decreese battery life.

5. Any word on FM tuner. I know its under devolopment, but I just wondering how close it is. (dont awnser that just being a pesky user)

6. The scroll pad, seems to work better as a 2  button input device. I can not imagen rockbox taking advantage of a position sensitive button. It seems to work great now (save these problems of course)

7. Heres one for ya, I would like to have a custom menu. Have some of the plugins on the menu (like the visualizations (no I am not useing them now)) I would also like to remove some of the menu items I do not use. This is both in the Database search (I think I can change this one but it seems I can only add to it) and the menu that shows up when you press <--. There seems to be a lot of disussion about rather users should be allowed to customize their menu or not. It seems the final desicion was for the softwar to provide a static menu. This to me seems like a mistake. For something as nice and flexable as rockbox is it would be great to have the  ability to set up a custom menu. So I submit this idea to you. Take a look at how the blackberrys do their home screen. Let items in a menu be hidden. That way rockbox can provide the menu but users can still tailor it to their needs.

8. There realy should be a way (and maybe there is) to change fonts between the WPS and the menues/file broswer. If for no other reason then being able to change font color.

9. Also the menu screen and WPS should have the ability to sen margins. The wps can sort of have  them by inserting a space at the start and end of each line, and by skipping the first and last line. Of course this only works if text doesn't scroll. The menu doesn't seem to be able to have them at all. The ability to have margins (and maybe position the scroll bar, though it can be turend off) Would allow for greater customization of the menu screen as you could have a backdrop and then insert the menu in such a manor as to avoid the "border" in the backdrop. Customization of the menu/file browser screens seems like a missing feature.

10. Thanks. Just wanted to say that. I work all day devoloping stuff and I realy don't like when no one tells me thanks. Rockbox seems to be a damn good peice of software My issues seem to be related to the fact that I am using a new build. And the build seems to be under heavey devolopment. The power management code seems to have been changed last night when I updated from svn so maybe the power issue I was asking about has gotten better. I sure how the DB has.  

Any way Thanks.

[coteyr]

Just wanted to tac on the fact that WPS customization, although lacking in the margins thing, was very nice. I created my own WPS in a matter of hours. Most of wich was devoted to makeing th images. It was to stick to b&w or text only it would take minuets. The experance of making my own wps was just joyful compaired to some of the skinning I have done in the past (shakes a finger at his blackberry)

[Llorean]

Firstly, why did you think this belonged here, if your first thought was for an unsupported thread.

ALL discussion relating to unsupported builds should be in their thread. All of it. Unless you are running the official version of the H10 port, it doesn't belong here.

[coteyr]

Posts in this forum should be questions that do not seem to fit in other forums, or questions regarding Rockbox as a project, or the website Rockbox is on.

If your posts belong somewhere else, they may be moved, and a redirection post will be left in their place.

These are not social forums. They are for discussion and questions relating to Rockbox, not general support for the players that Rockbox runs on.

Specially the line that seems to be "Posts in this forum should be questions that do not seem to fit in other forums" I will repost on that thread. Its not a problem but some of the issues (7, 8, 9, 10 maybe 2, 3) seem to be general issues/ideas with rockbox and not a specfic build.

[coteyr]

on top of that there is not unsupported build thread for this build, and your only supposed to make threads if your announcing a build. There-for I have no idea where to stick this. I will not be moving it. Feel free to however.

[Llorean]

Are you or are you not using the official H10 build?

[coteyr]

is there an offical H10 build. The docs are not clear on this. The instructions on your site say there has never been an offical build, and to use SVN of or daily builds.  However there is no un-offical thread and there are lots of docs in things like the wiki and instruction manuals.

Sorry if I am haveing a hard time with this just trying to stick my thread in the right place.

[GodEater]

Daily and CVS/SVN builds are "official" they're just not "released".

If you've downloaded a build from somewhere other than rockbox.org's daily builds or CVS/SVN - then it's "unofficial".

[Llorean]

You're confusing supported and released basically.

[coteyr]

ok then where does this post belong?

(just to clarify)
The iRiver fourm says its for the H1xx, H3xx the H10 is not the H1xx (as I found out).

[Llorean]

The iriver forum also says install only. This post, or most of it, should never have been posted. It is mostly bug reports or feature requests that both do not belong in the forums and are duplicates anyway. If you'd like to trim it down to actual questions we can see about helping you.

[coteyr]

Ok a no frills version:



1. Battery life seems to be really bad, around 3-4 hours. What settings can I change to lengthen my play time? Yes my WPS has images (22 to be excat) EQ is off and all the power saving settings seem to be real low. (HD spindown at 3s etc).

3. This one has to be my fault. The Database doesn't work all the time. I am wondering what settings would be best to keep this working? for example. I power on the device, wait for it to scan the hard drive (around 30 seconds-ish) it updates the database and then I browse/search for the artist I want. Then I Play their music. lets say an hour in I don't want to listen to that artest anymore, so I go back to the data base and try to search/browse but all I get is "Database no ready" I have tried various things to fix this but the only relibal way to fix it is to power off the device and start it up again. Even update now from the options screen wont get it working.

4. Now sort of a general question. As I understand it the 2nd CPU on this decive is not currently in use. Would useing this CPU increse or decreese battery life.


10. Thanks. Just wanted to say that. I work all day devoloping stuff and I realy don't like when no one tells me thanks. Rockbox seems to be a damn good peice of software My issues seem to be related to the fact that I am using a new build. And the build seems to be under heavey devolopment. The power management code seems to have been changed last night when I updated from svn so maybe the power issue I was asking about has gotten better. I sure how the DB has.  


End no fluff version.

But seriously,  5. 6 and 7 are not feature requests the attepts to understand why they where not implimented.

5 is kind of a question that I know better then asking. i am not putting in a feature request for something I already know is in the works.  6. is a compliment. 7. Kind of a general idea but I wanted to know what the cumunity thought of it as a whole.  8 is a feature request of sorts. Perhaps I will register it properly.  9 is like 7, I wanted to know if there is a reason that it shouldn't be allowed, not so much requesting that it be. 7, 8 and 9 I will enter as feature requests.

[Llorean]

As I said, MANY of the things you've said have already been registered as feature requests. That's why I mentioned duplicates.

Battery life is a known issue, which you'd get if you searched.

For the database, try telling us what settings you're using, and if possible exactly how to reproduce this problem.

The second CPU gives me personally about a 5% increase in battery life.

[coteyr]

For the DB:

I am using
Load to Ram: On
Auto Update: On
Gather Runtime Data: On
Disk Spindown: 3s
Disk Poweroff: yes
Directory Cache: yes

[coteyr]

almost forgot. To reporduce the error this is what I do: (no gaurentee it will reporoduce as it could be my settings)

1. power on unit
2. Wait for the Database to update if need be
3. Select some music from the DB and play it
4. Enjoy your music
5. Get sick of music
6. Try to use DB to pick new music to listen to
7. Get the error ("DataBase not ready")

On an odd side note: I some times see an error "No .rockbox directory Instliation incomplete" Then the device continues to operate properly (yes the directory is there)