wps 'next' never works

[painless-shadow]

Hi,
I've tried several WPSs and themes, some of them had the 'next' feature, but none of them showed any information. When 'next' appears, all the fields remain blank.

I've tried searching for the answer, but couldn't find any good documentation on the 'next' feature.
Am I missing something?  

[bluebrother]

That tags work fine for me. Are you sure your files (especially the one that should show up when testing) are tagged properly?

[DanManners]

What themes specifically. It could be a glitch with new builds, and what model MP3 Player are you using?

[PaulPosition]

Also, Next doesn't usually appear until you're about 10 to 20 seconds into the song, when Rockbox has started buffering the 'next' song. If you ffwd through an album, you'll never see 'next' coming up.

[Genre9mp3]

Also, Next doesn't usually appear until you're about 10 to 20 seconds into the song, when Rockbox has started buffering the 'next' song. If you ffwd through an album, you'll never see 'next' coming up.

This time depends on the target (AFAIK Coldfire targets buffer the songs faster than PP targets) and on the size of the tracks played (bigger files need longer times to get buffered). Moreover, IIRC if the track is bigger than the buffer itself (this happens a lot on Archos devices that have limited RAM) then the Next tag will never show up. I guess, a solution to this would be the metadata-on-buffer idea that was discussed on IRC.

PS: To my experience a typical time for H300 is 4-5 sec until the Next tag show up.

[painless-shadow]

Seems I have missed something:
I was playing a couple of albums that didn't have id3 tagging...
Silly me, I didn't realize that the 'next' feature reads only id3 info. The WPS showed me the name of the songs (which were actually the names of the files), so I assumed the 'next' feature didn't work, since it didn't show any info.

So now I wish that someone will make 'next' to read the name of the file, in case no id3 info is present. Is that possible?

Thanks for answering.

[PaulPosition]

It shouldn't be too hard to do, if you're willing to edit the .wps file yourself.

You'd need to find something that looks like :

Code: [Select]

%?Ia<%Ia>

(note the capitalization of the letter I.. %ia is artist, %Ia is next artist)

and change that to :

Code: [Select]

%?Ia<%Ia|%D2>

That will take care of the artist, at least if you use a /artist/album/songs directory structure. (d2/D2 is second directory from the right, so artist).

Then if you also find ...:

Code: [Select]

%?It<%It>

You'll need to change it to :

Code: [Select]

%?It<%It|%Fm>

Which will show the next songs' filename.

With those, you'll have information from tags if those are available, and if not, they'll get replaced with filename and second-dir-from-end-of-file-path.

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/CustomWPS will have any information you need to customize it to your liking.

Good luck

[Genre9mp3]

So now I wish that someone will make 'next' to read the name of the file, in case no id3 info is present. Is that possible?

This is already implemented in many wps. For instance, iCatcher which is bundled in the builds does this. But as PaulPosition mentioned you can easily edit your favorite wps file to do this.

[painless-shadow]

Thanks, I did