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Do I Have to Keep Apple's Firmware?

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Hvatum:

--- Quote ---Edit: What do you mean by "transfer rate?" If you mean transferring the songs from the computer to the iPod, it really depends on the medium you're transferring from for one, but also since you're transferring through USB, you're automatically restricted in the maximum transfer rate. I personally find that by transferring manually, it takes less than 10 minutes to transfer 6GB of songs, whereas iTunes takes almost 20 minutes.
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Yes. That is true. But under the Apple software I reached a transfer rate higher then under Rockbox. So if I understand correctly the problem is with Rockbox, not the limitation of USB, but perhaps I have made a mistake here. It is also possible that the problem finds itself in my computer's interaction with Rockbox. So you may not experience these slower transfers.

Jakeworld:
That is rather strange, and it can be a significant issue if you have a large collection of media. I'm not sure what would cause that, unless somehow iTunes draws more potential out of the USB than does Explorer for certain computers.

One reason why it may be faster for drag and drop for me is that on iTunes, I had album art attached to each individual song, which it has to read, categorize, and allocate, and could greatly impact the speed of my transfer.

linuxstb:
Rockbox doesn't have a USB disk mode - the problem is that Apple's firmware has two different disk modes, one of which is slow, and one is fast.

The slow one is the "emergency disk mode", which is part oif the firmware in flash ROM, and Rockbox reboots your ipod into this mode when it detects a USB connection.

The fast one is in Apple's main firmware - the one the original poster wanted to remove.

This seems to affect Nanos more than other targets.

Preliminary work has started on implementing a usb disk mode in Rockbox, but that may be a long time in coming.

rADo:
This is great info, should be in wiki. I never use obsolete Apple FW, and doing "ipodpatcher [device] -wf rockbox.ipod" means it boots now 4-5 seconds faster :-)

Hvatum:
This is great info, should be in wiki. I never use obsolete Apple FW, and doing "ipodpatcher [device] -wf rockbox.ipod" means it boots now 4-5 seconds faster :-)

Yes! This is a good tip. There almost is not a reason to keep the original iPod firmware.  ;D

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