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"Pimp my iPod"
Skyly:
Someone else profiting from your work when you already choose not to isn't a negative. To see it that way is a small view. So I don't think that is a better question. But I'm assuming the theme designers aren't looking to make a profit at some point.
But the rest of your points seem valid. I didn't read your notes on the GPL close enough before. Except... themes are copyrighted by virtue of their creation. Having looked it up I see that that is true. I always assumed otherwise; that if you make something and want to show it off, you either give it copyright, or not care.
I really didn't know the system was like that. Its kind of crazy I think. If I put something in a public place without some explicit copyright, I assume its free for all. Great, so everything comes with paranoia.
PaulPosition:
Actually, it's quite the un-paranoia :
If I create something, I don't have to go paranoiac and consult with every country in the world's patent offices to have it recognised as mine, it *is*, by default. If I think anyone could use it for anything, I can explicitly state it (in a license). If I think anyone could use it for one very specific purpose, I can explicitly state it (in a license).
And yes, if anyone profits from my work when I chose not to could be a negative. If I made it to be free, it damn better be free. If I make a thousand cookies to give to the hobos on my street and one of them frickin' take 'em all to sell to the other ones, I'll rightfully feel deceived. And angry.
bk:
BTW, the theme licensing question has a practical application. I've contributed several screenshots of Rockbox running various 3rd party themes to Wikipedia. So far I've assumed the situation is the same as screenshots from any other GPL software. However if theme authors choose to license some of those themes in a way that is not compatible with the GFDL the screenshots will no longer be able to be used on Wikipedia (IANAL).
aegis:
Yeay! I took a look on the e-Bay site and saw: " Dieser Artikel wurde beendet." what means no sells there anymore. :)
Any further news, Scorche? :)
And btw, just to clarify one thing:
--- Quote from: Skyly on November 30, 2006, 12:48:41 PM ---Not giving credit where credit is due could well be offensive, but does that mean anything legally? Does the GPL have any clause about taking or giving credit? It is the coder's choice to provide under the GPL.
--- End quote ---
Actually, it's highly illegal due to several causes.
Firstly, GNU lincenses do not mean any resignation of neither copyright nor information about the authorship. The situation is exactly opposite - they require a proper list of authors.
Secondly, imposing having author's rights is not only immoral, but illegal. What would you say, if on motor shows some chinese manufacturer took a Rolls-Royce, without asking ripped off all the logo elements and stated it's their car, proof of their quality, etc., etc.?
The impostor violated Rockbox's good image.
Thirdly, the situation gets even worse when you realize that Rockbox is not a company - it's a group of particular people which are often protected even more strictly than corporate entities.
Imagine that nobel prize winner writes a book and allows some millionaire to sign it as his own work and possible get a nobel prize or just improve his reputation. Or some people are writing for the others final essays, term papers, and so on.
Because of such possibilities, in many countries (and I do assume that's the case in Germany) one cannot transfer the "right of authorship". It's untradable.
Whoever claims he is the real author, while it is not the truth, commits the fraud. Dot. End.
This is why the guys should be punished.
And here I have a proposal - if Rockbox devs don't feel like having time to fight with these guys - why don't you inform the Free Software Foundation or any other legal organisation advocating the free licenses.
Rockbox is GPL'ed, so it's the part of the family and it can count on some help. Maybe harsh marketing, reviews of this fraud in free software press and websites etc. could help the cause, making enough bad press and fuss.
scorche:
Honestly, his "operation" was not big enough to warrant all that you say. As long as he knows what he did wrong fully and has taken the auction down and the area of his website pertaining to this "pimping service" down as well, I am happy.
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