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Offline bascule

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Re: one of last things im REALLY missing...
« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2006, 08:56:39 AM »
Quote from: muesli on November 26, 2006, 07:12:20 AM
is audible seeking in ie mp3s...could be that done pleaaaaaaaaaaase :)
Quote from: muesli on December 11, 2006, 06:33:50 AM
well...this sux a lot  :'( :'( :'(

Well, these also sound like a predictable precursor to that response :P

They may not have come across how you wanted, judging by your subsequent posts, but posts that come across as whinging without any constructive content get quickly dismissed here...

At the very least, as a non-coder, you could ask the Feature Request author if s/he has had any response from the devs. You could then go onto IRC and perhaps try to generate some enthusiasm for the request, or work with them to modify the request in some way to make it more likely to get worked on. You could also offer a reward (link) to get your request fulfilled.

Without coding skills, your options are more limited, but not to point of just sniping from the sidelines.
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Offline AlexP

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Re: one of last things im REALLY missing...
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2006, 10:12:29 AM »
Quote from: muesli on December 11, 2006, 08:08:35 AM
that answer was predictable. its often used but doesnt help since majority of people has not the capability to code any single line...

sometimes i have the feeling developers just develop to improve the system (which is great of course) but fail to implement features which are strongly asked (like this e.g.)

anyway...i dont want to complain. im more than happy with rockbox. keep up great work, guys!

The answer is predictable because it is true!  The developers work very hard on this project for nothing in their spare time.  You haven't bought it, they make no guarantees, and as a result only code what they want to!  Seriously, you can't say loads of us want this, please use your evenings and weekends doing it for no reward even though you don't want it.  Very often developers will implement features they aren't bothered about from the goodness of their hearts, but ultimately each and every feature is down to someone who wants it knowing how to code or learning how to.

Quote from: muesli on December 11, 2006, 08:08:35 AM
anyway...i dont want to complain. im more than happy with rockbox. keep up great work, guys!

Glad to hear it!  ;D  Nor did I mean to jump on you but saying things like "this sux a lot  :'(  :'(  :'(" without doing anything constructive annoys people!

Edit: Bascule beat me to it...
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Offline Llorean

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Re: one of last things im REALLY missing...
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2006, 04:03:26 PM »
Simply put: Being able to code is entirely a matter of time invested. Anyone who can type can learn to do it if they're dedicated to it. It may be more difficult for some than others, but it is still an objective system, which means references can supplement skills as well. That being said, having a feature added to Rockbox is entirely a function of peoples' desire to see that feature.

If they want it enough, anyone CAN take the time to learn what is necessary to implement it. The problem is, most people don't want it enough, and use "I can't program" as a cause for not doing it, rather than "I don't want it enough to learn how to program, because it is worth enough for me to ask others to do it, but not enough for me to put in the time to learn to do it myself."
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Offline muesli

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Re: one of last things im REALLY missing...
« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2006, 04:17:06 PM »
well...to assume that everybody can learn coding if he only invest time and effort is ridiculous. it takes ages to become a reasonable developer...in my case i had to invest a minimum of 6months. and since i am working and have family you should understand thats kinda impossible...
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Offline Llorean

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Re: one of last things im REALLY missing...
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2006, 05:32:58 PM »
I didn't state that it could be done within a reasonable time, simply that it could be done.

Which would you rather have, a feature you want never coded, or a feature you want coded a long time from now, but guaranteed to be done?
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Re: one of last things im REALLY missing...
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2006, 05:37:05 PM »
Quote from: muesli on December 11, 2006, 04:17:06 PM
since i am working and have family you should understand thats kinda impossible...

Our lead developers also are working and have family.

So you should understand that they will invest their time in what they want to do
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Offline muesli

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Re: one of last things im REALLY missing...
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2006, 05:44:08 PM »
and the lead developer do that as their profession either...fair play pls...
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Offline Llorean

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Re: one of last things im REALLY missing...
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2006, 05:56:51 PM »
1) That statement doesn't make any sense. Do what as their profession? Certainly you don't mean Rockbox, as nobody does that as their profession.

2) Pls is not a word in the English language, please follow our posting guidelines.
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Offline Cassandra

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Re: one of last things im REALLY missing...
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2006, 06:18:37 PM »
I guess he means that it would be considerably less effort for a core developer to do it than for him to learn to do it then do it.  This may be correct, but it's not really relevant.  

muesli - you asked, so I told you why it's not likely to happen, because I thought you might like to know.  Please understand that if we seem terse when answering questions like this, it's not because we're offended or think they're stupid, it's because they get asked a lot.
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Offline Mr. Brownstone

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Re: one of last things im REALLY missing...
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2006, 06:38:48 PM »
If you want a ROCKbox feature very badly, I would suggest paying one of the developers to code it for you.
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Offline Chronon

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Re: one of last things im REALLY missing...
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2006, 12:21:01 PM »
Or maybe you could find a friend who is proficient in programming C and get them interested in Rockbox.

 :)
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