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Offline rickeyjt

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H140: Rockbox wil not boot
« on: October 22, 2006, 01:36:37 PM »
I have the same issue with my h140 not booting rockbox exactly as described in the thread below but did not see any final resolution.
http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5020.msg38435#msg38435

I did try loading ihp_100.hex but the h140 will not apply it, it does nothing when selecting upgrade firmware.  I have formatted both using swissknife and h140 format menu.  The previous rockbox bootloader for the h140 still comes up and still freezes at the result: 0 as before.  Is there a way to really wipe the firmware?  This is just so I can try the suggestion in the 38435 post to apply ihp_100.hex and see if helps to boot rockbox.

Rick
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Offline LinusN

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Re: H140: Rockbox wil not boot
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2006, 04:02:09 AM »
ihp_100.hex is for the H110 and H115, not the H140.

Use ihp_h120.hex instead.
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Offline rickeyjt

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Re: H140: Rockbox wil not boot
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2006, 09:46:51 AM »
Quote from: LinusN on October 23, 2006, 04:02:09 AM
ihp_100.hex is for the H110 and H115, not the H140.

Use ihp_h120.hex instead.

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"Result: 0" means that the rockbox.iriver file was successfully loaded, so it shouldn't be a partitioning problem at least. It seems the startup code in rockbox.iriver fails for some reason, and I'd guess it is caused by some hardware difference. E.g., it could be a difference in the amount of memory installed, so installing a H100 build could be worth a try.
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This is what was suggested but not exactly clear to me if I was to try to load the ihp_h100.hex file in addition the h100 .rockbox build.  You may have to rename the hex file to h120 but I don't think that's what they meant.

Anyway, with the h120.hex firmware, the 100 build yields a result: -5 and kicks into the iriver firmware at boot.  The h120 build of course freezes at the result: 0.
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Offline Llorean

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Re: H140: Rockbox wil not boot
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2006, 09:51:15 AM »
With an H140 you must download the h120 bootloader NOT the h100 bootloader, use it to patch official h120 firmware, and copy an h120 build onto your player.

You should  NOT at ANY STEP in this process be renaming something for the h100 to h120.
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Offline rickeyjt

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Re: H140: Rockbox wil not boot
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2006, 03:28:20 AM »
Quote from: Llorean on October 23, 2006, 09:51:15 AM
You should  NOT at ANY STEP in this process be renaming something for the h100 to h120.

Ok, didn't do that.  I upgraded the firmware with the patched ihp_120.hex and tried copying either the H120 or H100 build to the unit.  Does anyone have a clue as to way this is hanging on boot up?  I have another H140 unit for the last two years, puchased new, that works fine with the same firmware and builds.
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Offline Bagder

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Re: H140: Rockbox wil not boot
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2006, 03:44:05 AM »
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Does anyone have a clue as to way this is hanging on boot up?

Have you verified that the file system is fine?
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Offline rickeyjt

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Re: H140: Rockbox wil not boot
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2006, 03:52:42 AM »
chkdsk at the xp command prompt finds no problems.
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Offline bascule

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Re: H140: Rockbox wil not boot
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2006, 04:01:30 AM »
It looks like you know what you're doing, but it just sounds as though you are missing the rockbox.iriver file in the root of your player, which the bootloader looks for in order to boot the actual software?
« Last Edit: October 24, 2006, 04:17:35 AM by bascule »
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Offline LinusN

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Re: H140: Rockbox wil not boot
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2006, 05:03:12 AM »
Well, the rockbox.iriver file must be there, otherwise the bootloader wouldn't say "result: 0".

This looks like the same issue that the OutletM3 players have. http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=5520.0

I'm soon receiving one of these for investigation, then I might solve this mystery.
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Offline rickeyjt

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Re: H140: Rockbox wil not boot
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2006, 09:15:04 AM »
Quote from: LinusN on October 24, 2006, 05:03:12 AM
I'm soon receiving one of these for investigation, then I might solve this mystery.


I can open up both my units and look for differences on the motherboards if that will help.  iriver probably has a mountain of spare parts to choose from when slapping theses referbs together.  Perhaps the problem lies therein.
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Offline rickeyjt

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Re: H140: Rockbox wil not boot
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2006, 11:46:07 AM »
Here are photos of the two boards.  Maybe reading the chip numbers will tell you something.  You can view or download high-res images off the thumbnails.

http://www.dviews.com/images/iriver/

BTW, I swapped hard drives and the new unit behaves the same.
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Offline rickeyjt

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Re: H140: Rockbox wil not boot
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2006, 02:55:30 PM »
Digital Outlet I believe is the company that does all the iriver refurbishing.  They can be reached at 408-453-6435 bchurum@hotmail.com.  I could not find out what they are doing to the units.  Supposedly 'Harris' is the guy to talk to at 408-313-6629.  See what you can find out.
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