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Offline godzirra

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Re: Ipod 5G 30gig 1.2 firmware not found!
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2006, 12:31:23 PM »
Quote from: Febs on October 06, 2006, 12:29:17 PM
If you have a new model 5g (what some have been calling the 5.5g), it is not yet supported by Rockbox.  The first generation 5g should work fine with firmware 1.2.

Well, according to the apple website, mine doesnt have the right serial number to be a 5.5g.  However, I'm starting to suspect they havent listed all the serial numbers.  I've been chatting with people on #rockbox for two days, and we can't get it working.  Somehow I got the 2048 bit sectors like the 5.5g.  Not sure if its because I have a 5.5g or if the restore I did after screwing it up re-did the sectors or what...
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Ipod 5G 30gig 1.2 firmware not found!
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2006, 12:32:49 PM »
Yeah, either the restore reformats 5Gs to the 2048 sector format, or their list of 5.5G serial numbers is somewhat off, but it is apparently possible to have an iPod that does not show up in their serial number range, that is impossible (at the moment) to install Rockbox on.
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Re: Ipod 5G 30gig 1.2 firmware not found!
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2006, 04:42:15 PM »
Quote from: godzirra on October 06, 2006, 12:31:23 PM
Quote from: Febs on October 06, 2006, 12:29:17 PM
If you have a new model 5g (what some have been calling the 5.5g), it is not yet supported by Rockbox.  The first generation 5g should work fine with firmware 1.2.

Well, according to the apple website, mine doesnt have the right serial number to be a 5.5g.  However, I'm starting to suspect they havent listed all the serial numbers.  I've been chatting with people on #rockbox for two days, and we can't get it working.  Somehow I got the 2048 bit sectors like the 5.5g.  Not sure if its because I have a 5.5g or if the restore I did after screwing it up re-did the sectors or what...


Call up Apple to check. It's really the easiest way.
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Offline BronYAurStomp

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Re: Ipod 5G 30gig 1.2 firmware not found!
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2006, 06:00:19 PM »
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If it's a new 30 gig instead of the older model then you're out of luck.  If it's an old model that's been flashed to the 1.2 firmware you can basically follow the directions for flashing firmware on the Ipod Linux forums.

http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7748

That's how to download and flash the firmware and reupload it to the ipod.....  It's a better bootloader than rockbox's in my opinion.

So I think i'm going to read the instructions and see what this is all about.
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Offline godzirra

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Re: Ipod 5G 30gig 1.2 firmware not found!
« Reply #19 on: October 07, 2006, 01:51:54 AM »
Still doesn't work for me :/

When I use ipodpatcher, I get:

[INFO] Reading partition table from \\.\PhysicalDrive3
 Error reading from disk: The parameter is incorrect.

This is definitely my ipod, because all other numbers (I've tried up to 30) either say there isn't a disk there, or say it isn't an ipod.



Quote from: BronYAurStomp on October 06, 2006, 06:00:19 PM
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If it's a new 30 gig instead of the older model then you're out of luck.  If it's an old model that's been flashed to the 1.2 firmware you can basically follow the directions for flashing firmware on the Ipod Linux forums.

http://ipodlinux.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7748

That's how to download and flash the firmware and reupload it to the ipod.....  It's a better bootloader than rockbox's in my opinion.

So I think i'm going to read the instructions and see what this is all about.
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Offline linuxstb

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Re: Ipod 5G 30gig 1.2 firmware not found!
« Reply #20 on: October 07, 2006, 05:25:47 AM »
I've just tried multiple restores of my 5g to v1.2 of Apple's firmware using iTunes 7.0.1, and it still has the normal 512 byte sectors.

So it seems that either Apple shipped some "old" 5gs with 2048 byte sectors, or their list of "Late 2006" (aka 5.5g) serial numbers is incomplete.  The list is on this page:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61688
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Re: Ipod 5G 30gig 1.2 firmware not found!
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2006, 09:08:52 PM »
A quick and easy way to check if you have a 5.5G is to look and see if you have the search feature. Apple only enabled it on the 5.5gs, so if you have one of them, you'll have the search. If you don't, its a plane jane 5G.
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Offline godzirra

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Re: Ipod 5G 30gig 1.2 firmware not found!
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2006, 09:23:03 PM »
Intersting.  I -do- in fact have the search feature, but my serial number ends in "V9M".  

Are you sure search wasnt added with the 1.2 firmware?



Quote from: JoshPowell on October 08, 2006, 09:08:52 PM
A quick and easy way to check if you have a 5.5G is to look and see if you have the search feature. Apple only enabled it on the 5.5gs, so if you have one of them, you'll have the search. If you don't, its a plane jane 5G.
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Offline godzirra

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Re: Ipod 5G 30gig 1.2 firmware not found!
« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2006, 09:25:11 PM »
Do you have the search feature under music now after doing a restore of your 5g?  I want to find out of thats a sure fire way to see if you have a 5.5g, or if it shows up after upgrading a 5g to 1.2 firmware.

Quote from: linuxstb on October 07, 2006, 05:25:47 AM
I've just tried multiple restores of my 5g to v1.2 of Apple's firmware using iTunes 7.0.1, and it still has the normal 512 byte sectors.

So it seems that either Apple shipped some "old" 5gs with 2048 byte sectors, or their list of "Late 2006" (aka 5.5g) serial numbers is incomplete.  The list is on this page:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61688
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Offline BronYAurStomp

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Re: Ipod 5G 30gig 1.2 firmware not found!
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2006, 12:27:02 AM »
My serial number ends in V9M as well, and I have search.

From what I've been able to get from google/various sites ONLY the 5.5g ipods have search feature.  The 'older' 5gs do not have this, so apparently Apple gave us some super secret 5.5gs disguised as 5gs. :*( hooray.

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Feature-wise, the new 5.5G iPods offer the following differences from the 5G iPods that debuted last year:

    * 60 percent brighter screens
    * Search
    * Significantly longer battery life during video playback
    * Quick Scroll — a new feature that shows the current letter of the alphabet in a heads-up display while scrolling through a list
    * Gapless playback
    * New video games
    * 640 × 480 video playback
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The first two features, the brighter screen and the search feature, are only available on the 5.5G iPods. The remaining features are enabled for all 5G iPods updated with the latest firmware (version 1.2)
pulled from http://daringfireball.net/2006/09/fifth_generation_ipod_features
 
He says there's actually a THIRD 5th gen ipod that has not been officially released by Apple, presumably the ones we got.

*Edit* CNET and Apple's iPod 'Discussion' Forums confirms that there is indeed an "enhanced" 5G...so we apparently have a model not recognized by Apple..........i can't find how i can talk to Apple directly either :( either their website is an evasive mess or i need to go to bed.
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