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Offline Mr530

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Is a theme such as this possible?
« on: October 03, 2006, 04:34:12 PM »


I know its pretty much jclix, but would a large font like that be possible?

also would custom backdrops per song or per folder be possible? It doesn't seem like too hard of a feature to implement.
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Is a theme such as this possible?
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2006, 04:36:26 PM »
If it's not too hard to implement, feel free to post a patch.
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Offline Mr530

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Re: Is a theme such as this possible?
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2006, 04:42:14 PM »
haha hey don't get me wrong i have no idea about doing something like that. But i've seen other peoples requests such as movie playback emulators, etc. and custom backdrops seems much more reasonable.

i don't even have rockbox now cuz I sold my 5g and have a 5.5, but i think having an artist based backdrop that relates to the song is cooler than album art.
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Offline roach

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Re: Is a theme such as this possible?
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2006, 04:49:54 PM »
Quote from: Mr530 on October 03, 2006, 04:34:12 PM
also would custom backdrops per song or per folder be possible? It doesn't seem like too hard of a feature to implement.

Seems like this would be a quick change to the existing Album Cover patch. You might even be able to use the existing Alcum Cover patch without any modifications, and refer to the albums background image in your WPS.
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Is a theme such as this possible?
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2006, 05:23:40 PM »
The backdrop image must be the same resolution of the screen, so any code to do this would have to either resize the image to the screen size or fill the remainder of the backdrop with blank pixels of some color. It's not as simple as it seems.
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Offline Mr530

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Re: Is a theme such as this possible?
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2006, 06:08:43 PM »
no no, i meant like have custom premade 320x240 backdrops that correspond with certain files.
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Is a theme such as this possible?
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2006, 06:10:30 PM »
I personally am not a fan of features/functions that serve to do nothing but look pretty and make my battery life worse. But i'm sure someone will end up programming this eventually.
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Offline roach

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Re: Is a theme such as this possible?
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2006, 08:15:24 PM »
Quote from: Llorean on October 03, 2006, 06:10:30 PM
I personally am not a fan of features/functions that serve to do nothing but look pretty and make my battery life worse. But i'm sure someone will end up programming this eventually.

I tend to agree with you, but as an intellectual excercise, since the WPS themes already support setting a background image, I'm not sure how this would actually decrease battery life. This is probably not something I would use, but it just seems like, since the album art patch exists, and WPS already support background images out of the box, I just hought that supporting a hybrid of these two functionalities shouldn't be super difficult, is all...
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Offline Yotto

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Re: Is a theme such as this possible?
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2006, 09:22:49 PM »
You can *almost* do it now.  Have you tried using a combination of full-screen album-art and scrolling (%s) text to hopefully lay the text over the images?

I haven't, of course.  Just giving you an idea.  I'm all for bling, but I'm busy trying to eke more battery out of my ipod by clearing the screen.  It seems to only give an extra 20 minutes though (I did two battery drain tests, one normal, one blanked, and the blanked screen lasted 6:40 while unblanked lasted 6:20.  Not sure if that's worth not having a screen.)
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Offline mnhnhyouh

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Re: Is a theme such as this possible?
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2006, 09:33:21 PM »
To properly implement this patch would require a small txt file stored in the albums directory that would be read so the theme could assign a text colour that looked good against the album art, and was readable.

Not my cup of tea, but I think many might like such an idea ?

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Offline roach

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Re: Is a theme such as this possible?
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2006, 09:56:51 PM »
Quote from: mnhnhyouh on October 03, 2006, 09:33:21 PM
To properly implement this patch would require a small txt file stored in the albums directory that would be read so the theme could assign a text colour that looked good against the album art, and was readable.

Eep. Hadn't thought of that.

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(I did two battery drain tests, one normal, one blanked, and the blanked screen lasted 6:40 while unblanked lasted 6:20.  Not sure if that's worth not having a screen.)
Yotto, by "blanked", do you mean with the backlight turned OFF (ie: dark screen)? From my limited understanding, LCDs consume the same amount of power, regardless of how many pixels are "turned on" at any one time (as opposed to OLED displays, which only consume power in relation to the number of pixels being "used"). The backlight would probably consume most of this power. Again, from what I've seen (though I may be mistaken), I don't think there's any functionality in RockBox to actually turn OFF the backlight on the LCD. Do you get better battery life with the Apple Firmware?
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Offline Yotto

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Re: Is a theme such as this possible?
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2006, 10:48:08 PM »
By blanked I mean blank, nothing on the screen.  My guess/thought/hope/whatever was that, if you don't display it, you don't process it.  This is more than blind faith, because when I turn hold off (I blank all lines based on the hold switch) the WPS shows the old screen for a second, before updating to the new song.  This implies I'm saving some processor power, and also saving the extra HDD time to load the album art.

Rockbox can turn off the backlight.  In the base build, you can do it on a time limit, and I think have a different time limit based on if the device is plugged in.  In Senab's build (which I use), via various patches, you can also set the backlight off on hold, and the backlight brightness.  With hold off (and therefore the backlight goes off in 30 seconds, but the pixels stay "on" and change based on time/album/hdd state) the battery died 20 minutes earlier for me than it did in the exact same situation with the hold switch on.

As to the Apple Firmware, I have no clue.  My iPod has spent more time in the Apple Firmware while charging the battery for the first time than it has ever since then.  I bought it to put Rockbox on it and use Rockbox exclusively on it :D
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Offline pixeldotz

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Re: Is a theme such as this possible?
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2006, 08:58:25 PM »
actually, a theme like this is very possible, aside from the large font.

i started working on a theme like this a few days ago for my h10. it switches the back art everytime a new track from another folder (cover.bmp) is displayed.

the problem is it's time consuming, i haven't been able to work on it much since i can't compile an h10 (20gb) uisim with those patches. i get  errors everyone.

if someone could compile me a win32 uisim for the h10(20GB) with these patches,
http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=46843

then i'll gladly continue working on this theme and release it for whatever platforms want it.
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Offline Videofolife13

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Re: Is a theme such as this possible?
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2006, 11:15:30 PM »
Hey Mr.530. I think a way this could be possible is to use the album art patch, but make the album art full screen and just have the same album art for the artist in general. ie: use a picture of 50 cent on all his albums. I don't know if the art is applied over or under the text in the wps, but if it is applied under, this could work with relitive ease.
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Offline scorche

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Re: Is a theme such as this possible?
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2006, 02:02:43 AM »
Quote from: pixeldotz on October 04, 2006, 08:58:25 PM
i haven't been able to work on it much since i can't compile an h10 (20gb) uisim with those patches. i get  errors everyone.

if someone could compile me a win32 uisim for the h10(20GB) with these patches,
http://www.misticriver.net/showthread.php?t=46843

If you get an error with each one, you have to wonder if you are doing something wrong...I would rather teach someone how to patch than just build them a build.

To double check:

Download the patch, copy/move it to the root of your rockbox source (in my case, inside rockbox-devel...the one that has the folders like apps, firmware, tools, etc), then patch the source with
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patch --binary -p0 < patchenamehere.patch

Unfortunately, the site is being slow atm so I can't double check that they actually are bad.
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