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Completely removing all traces of rockbox
pabouk:
--- Quote from: Mmmm on November 14, 2006, 04:26:22 AM ---I was just pointing out that whether you overwrite the settings block or not won't make any difference. He seemed a little overwhelmed with all the various commands to input and I thought I would point out that unless he just wanted to try it as an academic exercise it really isn't necessary.
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There is still some chance that Rockbox will behave in a buggy way when:
- The partition table is not correct.
- FAT32 partition has a bug undetected by chkdsk (already eliminated by formating).
- Rockbox function "clear settings" does not work correctly.
--- Quote from: Mmmm on November 14, 2006, 04:26:22 AM ---
--- Quote ---will that solution completely clean the hard drive? Would the manufacturer be able to see if Rockbox had ever been installed, for example, if the player was sent in for repair?
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The method I described will completely erase Rockbox from a manufacturers point of view, yes. :)
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Unfortunately that is a common misunderstanding of file systems and hard drives. Please read this: http://www.massachusetts.edu/hardwarefaq/faq.cfm (found after short googling). It is not very complicated to use unformat and unerase tools. Also the content of the Rockbox configuration sector can suggest that there was Rockbox installed.
Mmmm:
--- Quote from: pabouk on November 14, 2006, 06:19:53 AM ---
--- Quote from: Mmmm on November 14, 2006, 04:26:22 AM ---
--- Quote ---will that solution completely clean the hard drive? Would the manufacturer be able to see if Rockbox had ever been installed, for example, if the player was sent in for repair?
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The method I described will completely erase Rockbox from a manufacturers point of view, yes. :)
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Unfortunately that is a common misunderstanding of file systems and hard drives. Please read this: http://www.massachusetts.edu/hardwarefaq/faq.cfm (found after short googling). It is not very complicated to use unformat and unerase tools. Also the content of the Rockbox configuration sector can suggest that there was Rockbox installed.
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I suppose it depends on how paranoid you are that they will go to the bother of actually checking and trying to recover deleted data in an effort to not have to bother fixing your player.
I think that most manufacturers wouldn't go further than trying to boot the unit and would be happy if their original firmare booted up (or attempted to) when they tried to turn it on, and they might not even bother with that.
Also (and this is just speculation) I would imagine that having a copy of rockbox on your hard drive wouldn't void the warranty as surely you can store anything you like on the hard drive - Rockbox isn't actually installed and can't possibly damage your unit in this state. I would imagine that the problem would only be with the bootloader. ( I am talking from an IRiver owners perspective - I'm not sure how the installation of the other targets works)
Spug:
--- Quote from: pabouk on November 14, 2006, 08:57:44 AM ---Unfortunately that is a common misunderstanding of file systems and hard drives. Please read this: http://www.massachusetts.edu/hardwarefaq/faq.cfm (found after short googling). It is not very complicated to use unformat and unerase tools. Also the content of the Rockbox configuration sector can suggest that there was Rockbox installed.
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I don't really think they'd try to recover deleted data to see if the warranty might be voided. They might, but that's a risk I'd be willing to take. The content of the Rockbox configuration sector, however, would worry me a bit more. How can that be emptied?
--- Quote from: Mmmm on November 14, 2006, 08:57:44 AM ---Also (and this is just speculation) I would imagine that having a copy of rockbox on your hard drive wouldn't void the warranty as surely you can store anything you like on the hard drive - Rockbox isn't actually installed and can't possibly damage your unit in this state. I would imagine that the problem would only be with the bootloader. ( I am talking from an IRiver owners perspective - I'm not sure how the installation of the other targets works)
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Yeah, that makes sense. Though I understand the manufacturers in that they can't be sure that Rockbox didn't damage the player (unless, of course, they read the entire source code) in any way. How are all traces of the bootloader removed, then?
pabouk:
--- Quote from: Spug on November 14, 2006, 09:12:18 AM ---The content of the Rockbox configuration sector, however, would worry me a bit more. How can that be emptied?
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As bluebrother wrote already, on iriver H100s, H300s:
--- Code: ---dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda skip=61 bs=512 count=1
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Replace /dev/sda by the identifier the player is attached to.
--- Quote from: Spug on November 14, 2006, 09:12:18 AM ---How are all traces of the bootloader removed, then?
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It should be removed by flashing the unit using the original firmware.
Mmmm:
--- Quote from: Spug on November 14, 2006, 09:12:18 AM ---I don't really think they'd try to recover deleted data to see if the warranty might be voided. They might, but that's a risk I'd be willing to take. The content of the Rockbox configuration sector, however, would worry me a bit more. How can that be emptied?
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I think that it would be even more bother to look and find out if there is a Rockbox configuration sector present on the drive. However I'd say that if they did (I'm sure they wouldn't) this would void your warranty as it shows that you have beyond doubt run rockbox on your unit.
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