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Rockbox Player - Project to design and build a Free/Open hardware audio player
AlexP:
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--- Quote from: gevaerts on March 13, 2009, 08:20:30 AM ---
--- Quote from: AlexJCantos on March 13, 2009, 07:22:09 AM ---Yes, you should have started introducing yourself
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You mean like you did? Telling people to introduce themselves properly in your first post is an example of perfect forum behaviour I guess?
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Well, Alex Cantos did introduced himself on project wiki page, much before of this first post. And dkamin read that page before his first post, since is the page of the project, he couldn't know about the project details before reading that page.
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Irrelevant. It was his first post here, and he went off on one with a rant about people introducing themselves. Hypocrisy. Do you really mean to be this internal and enforce exactly what people are and are not allowed to do?
--- Quote from: casainho on March 13, 2009, 08:33:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: gevaerts on March 13, 2009, 08:20:30 AM ---
--- Quote from: AlexJCantos on March 13, 2009, 07:22:09 AM ---Besides, I don't know what criticism you're talking about, I haven't seen any criticism from dkamin and that's not what I'm commenting about.
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He proposed some hardware modifications, after which you basically told him to shut up.
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Well, dkamin already assumed some guilty: (...) In looking back at my original post, I see that I did not use much detail (...). The only important is that everyone who wants to help, needs to get together, share the information and we all should manage our energies. Let's continue.
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It is also important that you and your fellow "developers" don't immediately reject out of hand other people's views and attack them. People are hardly likely to want to share information and collaborate when if they do some work they get shouted at and basically told to shut up when they propose any changes.
And as for guilt - come on, for heaven's sake.
casainho:
--- Quote from: BigBambi on March 13, 2009, 08:48:42 AM ---And as for guilt - come on, for heaven's sake.
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I am bad at English language, maybe I couldn't express myself, find the right word sorry.
For me, is important that people first approach to others and saying in what can help, to manage in a good way the energies, like Alex and Tom did:
Example from Alex: I CAN HELP IN: I can develop/test/improve hardware, implement software and do some visual/conceptual design. MOTIVATION: I love audio electronics, gadgets, open source and Rockbox, need any more reasons?
There is no point for being working on 2 different hardwares, dkamin should before talk with us and discuss what to do. We were working already in hardware. He is free to do whatever he wants, but if he goes alone, he can end alone doing his Rockbox port.
AlexP:
--- Quote from: casainho on March 13, 2009, 09:04:38 AM ---
--- Quote from: BigBambi on March 13, 2009, 08:48:42 AM ---And as for guilt - come on, for heaven's sake.
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I am bad at English language, maybe I couldn't express myself, find the right word sorry.
For me, is important that people first approach to others and saying in what can help, to manage in a good way the energies, like Alex and Tom did:
Example from Alex: I CAN HELP IN: I can develop/test/improve hardware, implement software and do some visual/conceptual design. MOTIVATION: I love audio electronics, gadgets, open source and Rockbox, need any more reasons?
There is no point for being working on 2 different hardwares, dkamin should before talk with us and discuss what to do. We were working already in hardware. He is free to do whatever he wants, but if he goes alone, he can end alone doing his Rockbox port.
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This is my last word on the subject, we are going round in circles and it is pretty pointless.
AlexJCantos may well have said that elsewhere, but he turned up here and lambasted someone for the exact same thing as he was doing himself.
There is very much a point in working on 2 different hardware configurations if the first one being worked on has bad and illogical hardware choices.
Llorean:
--- Quote from: BigBambi on March 13, 2009, 09:09:21 AM ---There is very much a point in working on 2 different hardware configurations if the first one being worked on is has bad and illogical hardware choices.
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Agreed, the way the first project has basically rejected outright almost any suggestion from people who might be viewed as either potential buyer, or just interested non-developers, for reasons such as "you haven't invested any money in the project so you have no say" or "It was my idea and it should be a music player" or "I've been here longer" is bound to make people want to start up projects that are more open and maybe attempt to listen to more input before they rush to spending money on a board whose design will either be thrown out anyway (a waste of money) or fall into the category of "one of the poorer Rockbox targets, feature-wise" neither of which is particularly great.
I respect what you guys want to do over all, but generally speaking you've been about as non-open as possible while claiming to be open.
casainho:
--- Quote from: BigBambi on March 13, 2009, 09:09:21 AM ---There is very much a point in working on 2 different hardware configurations if the first one being worked on is has bad and illogical hardware choices.
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No, there isn't. We are very developers so we must manage very well our energies. dkamin didn't talk about any reason for doing a 2nd hardware, and if "bad and illogical hardware choices" were the reasons, it should be discussed for the help of the project.
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