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Rockbox Player - Project to design and build a Free/Open hardware audio player
Llorean:
Just a note, "Headphones" and "Line out" are two separate things. So it really should just be "1 headphone"
There's no player with any way of handling bluetooth yet. It'd fall into one of those "future ideas" kinds of things, which does make it well suited for an SDIO card rather than something internal (less work to just get the built-in hardware of the player up and running with Rockbox).
I'm not wholly sure duplicating the iPod dock connector is the best idea. For one, it'll be partially useless for things that expect a certain form factor. For another, it's possible that any pins where we differ (and there will be some if we decide to offer features they don't) might cause problems with some accessories.
If it were at all possible, what I'd do is try to have pins to coincide with all of those, but in a unique dock connector. Then follow up to see if it can be made to contain the pins of other dock connectors we support. There probably won't be too many more pins than just that of the iPod. Then you're left with a connector than can be adapted into an iPod or a Sansa or a whatever dock connector by the users, because it contains a superset, but allows for access to features beyond just what the iPod has. Just, y'know, a "given a perfect world" case for what I'd like to see regarding this sort of thing. As it is we really don't go out of our way to support iPod accessories at the moment, so basically anything that's expecting more than a line out and a bit of power really won't work anyway.
ZincAlloy:
bluetooth is not really important when designing a product for audiophiles, though. I expect audiophiles to use cable bound headphones. you might want to do some research at an audiophile kind of forum, for example the audio hardware section of http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/ .
while a larger than average size sure will be accepted you will still need to be careful to make it not too bulky. we're talking about a portable device here.
I think bootleggers would prefer to have digital and line inputs directly on the player and not in a dock..
An SD slot might not be important anymore if the device has usb on the go..
Llorean:
This product isn't only for audiophiles. If it were we'd probably leave out a screen entirely since updates can generate very small increases in noise, etc.
I'm not sure there's a particularly relevant reason to design for bootleggers when we're copyright respecting folk around here.
And you completely missed my reasoning for having an internal SD slot. USB on the go requires cables or dongles, and a card reader or external flash drive, neither of which can be stored inside the player so you don't have to carry other things around.
petur:
talking about bootleggers when discussing recording is something that will offend almost everybody in the taping scene.
bootleggers record shows and sell them, 100% illegally
tapers make recordings for their own or for sharing (for free), most of the time this is known and allowed by the bands.
And apart from that, there are many other legal uses for line-in. So if you're scrapping line-in from the design because of bootleggers, I'd remove the headphone/line-out of it too because many people have illegally ripped CD's on there anyway...
edit: so to clarify, normal standard connectors on the main body please :)
Llorean:
The suggestion wasn't "remove the line in" but whether or not it should be directly on the unit, or accessed by way of a dongle / special connector to keep the size of the main unit down somewhat. Perhaps the headphone out could double as a line-in like some iPods?
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