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Rockbox Player - Project to design and build a Free/Open hardware audio player

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Davide-NYC:
My requirements would be:

Take the iRiver H1x0 player and substitute the mageto-mechanical Hard-Drive for either massive Flash 30GB+ or a reasonable amount of Flash with an expansion slot.

Upgrade the LCD (not to color but) to a fast, large and crisp 1 bit monochrome LCD. It's about legibility not eye candy. You can't listen to color.

Then add a Real Time Clock. This is sorely missing on the H1x0 in my opinion.

Oh and I repeat the "nothing must protrude" request. Nothing must protrude.

Dreamy inclusions would be to upgrade the mic-pres, add phantom power and balanced inputs.

All in a pocket friendly size.  ;D

jbond:

--- Quote from: saratoga on October 23, 2006, 06:59:23 PM ---FWIW the ipod battery and hard disk are pretty easy to upgrade (you just unplug the old one and plugin the new), and it supports USB mass storage.

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The iPod disk is a 1.8". Good for physical size and power consumption. Bad for data size and cost. I'd prefer 2.5" Now maybe this will change as the new perpendicular encoding disks start to appear.

The thing about the battery is it would be nice to carry a charged battery and be able to swap it on the road. Although there are solutions to this with external boxes.

There's another angle on this which goes back to the start of the thread. A Rockbox reference hardware design could end up as three layers. An unpopulated circuit board, A populated circuit board and case (add your own battery and hard disk), a retail finished box. I think that having these available would drive down the cost of PMPs. At the moment the price of hard disk based PMPs is driven by marketing and competition and not raw materials. It irritates me intensely that we pay a $100 premium for an extra 30Gb when the actual premium should be more like $10. Given the price of 2.5" drives now, it should be possible to make a profit on a mass produced, chinese manufactured  box at around $100 to $150. Not $399.

What really puzzles me with the smaller manufacturers is why they want to get involved in writing their own firmware and why they want to pay the Microsoft tax. They'd be better off (and so would we) if they put the money they would have spent on that into the RockBox project.

saratoga:

--- Quote from: jbond on October 24, 2006, 02:47:03 AM ---What really puzzles me with the smaller manufacturers is why they want to get involved in writing their own firmware and why they want to pay the Microsoft tax. They'd be better off (and so would we) if they put the money they would have spent on that into the RockBox project.

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I imagine a lot of them don't know about Rockbox, and those that do are not very interested in it because of the GPL, which likely conflicts with some of their code (particularly if they're going to support DRM, MTP, etc).

Larsie:

--- Quote from: 608zz on October 15, 2006, 08:38:56 PM ---
* Second, the SD-card sticks out.  I specifically said that the card must not be exposed on the exterior of the device. 
* Third, it's not powered by the AA battery-standard.  I specifically said that it should run on a single AA battery. 

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If there's going to be a 'DIY' DAP with Rockbox support you'd be able to fix these issues yourself.

You could just hook up your own SD/CF/whatever-slot where you want.

I personally do not like AA battery's but same here, most parts will probably need 1-5 volts or something simmular (depending wether or not it's going to be harddrive- or flashbased). But you could just make a batterypack or solder a AA-socket on there.

And hell yes, I'm interested :P

jbond:

--- Quote from: saratoga on October 24, 2006, 01:16:05 PM ---I imagine a lot of them don't know about Rockbox, and those that do are not very interested in it because of the GPL, which likely conflicts with some of their code (particularly if they're going to support DRM, MTP, etc).

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Call me obtuse, but that's the point. Nobody actually wants Windows DRM or MTP. All they do is get in the way. Especially now that PFS DRM is obsolete with the Zune. And MTP is harder to use than USB mass storage.

Fairplay code baked in so that Rockbox will play iTMS tracks, anyone?

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