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Rockbox Player - Project to design and build a Free/Open hardware audio player
roach:
--- Quote from: portable on October 02, 2006, 08:40:47 PM ---If you know how fast Chinese manufacturer can copy designs.....And the fact that this device is manufacturered in China....It will be too much of a trouble to hunt down manufacturers that violate the licences.
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Of course the decision is entirely yours :). If you think the risks outweigh the benefits then you should follow your instinct.
--- Quote ---Don't you think electronic parts these days are too delicate and too small to put together yourselves?
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Speaking from experience, absolutely not. However, open hardware designs have to take certain human limitations into consideration. For example, a regular human being will have difficulty soldering, say, 0402 package passives. Better to stick with 0805. Or using LQFP packages instead of BGA. That sort of thing.
--- Quote ---Much easier and way cheaper to just buy the completed product.
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And I'm sure the majority of users would agree. So you need something that's professional enough to appeal to the average consumer, but easy enough for the average electronics hobbiest. Not an easy dichotomy to address. This is why typical hardware projects are geared toward one audience or the other, but rarely both. Still, if you're willing to share your schematics and part lists with the RockBox community, I'm sure you'll find an interested audience. I know I'd be interested...
608zz:
I'm going to list what I'd like in a Rockbox-based device:
This is a flash-based, audio-centric device:
* Enclosed slot for a SD-card, or maybe CF-card (Samsung recently made 32GB CF-cards). Â The card needs to be kept safe from physical harm, so must not be exposed on the exterior of the casing.
* Monochrome screen.
* Powered by a single AA battery. Â Forty hours of battery life may be possible on a flash device with a monochrome LCD, with the backlight always-off.
* Tactile controls, preferably a 5-way joystick.
* Exterior casing that completely recesses all controls.
* However much built-in flash memory as necessary. Â It doesn't have to be 4+GB, since there is an accommodation for expansion cards.
portable:
--- Quote from: 608zz on October 03, 2006, 01:47:41 AM ---I'm going to list what I'd like in a Rockbox-based device:
This is a flash-based, audio-centric device:
* Enclosed slot for a SD-card, or maybe CF-card (Samsung recently made 32GB CF-cards). The card needs to be kept safe from physical harm, so must not be exposed on the exterior of the casing.
* Monochrome screen.
* Powered by a single AA battery. Forty hours of battery life may be possible on a flash device with a monochrome LCD, with the backlight always-off.
* Tactile controls, preferably a 5-way joystick.
* Exterior casing that completely recesses all controls.
* However much built-in flash memory as necessary. It doesn't have to be 4+GB, since there is an accommodation for expansion cards.
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Try the other project
http://www.s1mp3.org/
They might have something that suit whatever you are after.
We are not interested in flash mp3/mp4 because there are way too many out there and the competition is too intense.
608zz:
--- Quote from: portable ---
--- Quote from: 608zz ---I'm going to list what I'd like in a Rockbox-based device:
This is a flash-based, audio-centric device:
* Enclosed slot for a SD-card, or maybe CF-card (Samsung recently made 32GB CF-cards). Â The card needs to be kept safe from physical harm, so must not be exposed on the exterior of the casing.
* Monochrome screen.
* Powered by a single AA battery. Â Forty hours of battery life may be possible on a flash device with a monochrome LCD, with the backlight always-off.
* Tactile controls, preferably a 5-way joystick.
* Exterior casing that completely recesses all controls.
* However much built-in flash memory as necessary. Â It doesn't have to be 4+GB, since there is an accommodation for expansion cards.
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Try the other project
http://www.s1mp3.org/
They might have something that suit whatever you are after.
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There isn't anything at that URL and besides, it isn't Rockbox, as far as I can tell.
--- Quote from: portable ---We are not interested in flash mp3/mp4 because there are way too many out there and the competition is too intense.
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I don't know who you're speaking for, but the thread starter already said that he would consider making a flash device. There are no personal audio devices that meet the criteria that I mentioned. And since the idea here was to design a device around Rockbox, there wouldn't be any competition anyway.Â
I see that you are a distributer of HDDs. Conflict of interest, perhaps? I'm not a distributer of flash memory, I simply want a decent flash-based audio device for personal use. It needs to be flash, because I'll use it during physical activities. I currently use an iAudio G3, a flash-based device with more features than any other, but it has limits on the number files and folders it can have, due to an outdated processor. Plus it doesn't have expansion capability. Plus it doesn't have high quality recording. Rockbox has the software functions I want, just not the availability on hardware that I can use.
portable:
--- Quote from: 608zz on October 03, 2006, 03:57:14 AM ---There isn't anything at that URL and besides, it isn't Rockbox, as far as I can tell.
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There used to be something there, yes, not Rockbox, but another open source project I found......it is supposed to be a opensource project for those chinese flash based mp3.....that's why I say it might be similar to what you are after...
I mean it is probably easy to find someone who already made a device you are after....using a chip that Rockbox probably already runs in....(there are so many flash based mp3/mp4 device out there..........)
Our manufacturer already make some flash based mp4 that have the SD card slot....except it does not run rockbox because it uses telechips.....same chip as the X8........ie same problem we are having for the X8....
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