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Rockbox Player - Project to design and build a Free/Open hardware audio player
spark:
--- Quote from: casainho ---Welcome Spark and thanks for being here.
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Thanks casainho. My pleasure. :)
--- Quote from: casainho ---I believe that full assembled players can sell by some companies, I can give 3 examples:
* http://store.makezine.com....asp?ProductCode=MKMP3KIT -> a DIY MP3 player but with MP3 IC decoder - why not upgrade for a better player version?;
* http://www.olimex.com/dev/mod-mp3.html -> Olimex MP3 player module;
* http://www.embedded-proje...net/index.php?page_id=165 -> USBprog - An open source all purpose tool (AVR ISP, ARM7/ARM9, AT89,JTAG, RS232, IO).
All this companies could be interested in sell assembled DAP, I believe. After we can try to find some others that make plastic cases, maybe that others companies can help on that, they should have contacts, experiences. I am also counting on someone in the community that have experience on this and can guide that part of the project.
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PCB and kit support
i know some people in my locality who can support us with PCB and components for the kit and also fully assembled players. however i guess they will have a Minimum Order Quantity (MOQ) requirement. what is the quantity we are looking at for the pilot lot. there has to be at least 2 pieces per developer. how much does this total to?
Enclosure
is there any CAD developer around here who can design the enclosure? we should be starting a thread for enclosure design. this is equally complex. i have no idea how this can be done.
PCB Tools
what PCB design tools are we supposed to use? anyone has experience with gEDA? i guess we should be using GPL tools. anyone has better options. we need to update this on the wiki.
casainho:
PCB Tools
GPL tools if possible. I asked recently that question at Rockbox mailing list and I received an suggestion:
"I'd suggest giving KiCad a try:
http://www.gipsa-lab.inpg.fr/realise_au_lis/kicad/index.html
I have used this sw on several smaller projects, and although it is still
lacking several features from commercial software, it is quite usable
already.
The sw is available for both Linux and Windows platforms."
In my company we use Eagle and looks like a lot of Open source projects uses Eagle. Could be possible that company that will assembly will need to do the design of PCB because of technology machines to assembly??
PCB and kit support
With this project, I think that company that will assembly, will can earn some money, If It will sell to others than us. Maybe we should ask for some kind of support, maybe as help for design the PCB and enclosure. Could we get help in companies that also sells online? - If company will sell, they will want a good design... maybe this could be good for this project, find someone that also wants to sell like Makezine.
At this time we may be just 3 developers.
Spark, are you the "HenriValta" of TWiki? - Now I did put my nick in front of my name in TWiki, could you put yours?
Another thing, could you write in TWiki the development phases and times? - Looks like you have more experience than me :-)
spark:
PCB Tools
Kicad looks good. it even has a 3D board viewer. ;)
http://www.lis.inpg.fr/realise_au_lis/kicad/Kicad_files/LogicielKicad_data/visu3d_sc.png
Eagle has a lot of limitations in the freeware version. see http://www.cadsoftusa.com/freeware.htm
PCB and kit support
--- Quote from: casainho ---At this time we may be just 3 developers.
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By developers i mean hardware as well as software developers. simply making the hardware won't do. the software guys will need the player too to port the software to it.
we should not worry if the company is gaining a few bucks assembling it for us. after all they are saving our time.
Enclosure
to keep things moving, we can ignore the enclosure for now. we first concentrate on getting the hardware up and running. There will be quite some time for the player to reach from developer to non-developer user. This time can be used to make the enclosure.
--- Quote from: casainho ---Spark, are you the "HenriValta" of TWiki? - Now I did put my nick in front of my name in TWiki, could you put yours?
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no i'm not. i haven't made any wiki entry yet. you had invited me to this forum a few days back, remember?
--- Quote from: casainho ---Another thing, could you write in TWiki the development phases and times? - Looks like you have more experience than me :-)
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thanks for the compliment. i'll put in something there soon.
Btwizt:
--- Quote from: spark on December 27, 2007, 09:41:59 AM ---
Enclosure
is there any CAD developer around here who can design the enclosure? we should be starting a thread for enclosure design. this is equally complex. i have no idea how this can be done.
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Well its not CAD but i do use LIghtwave 3d, can do the same thing.
casainho:
Spark, can you please say what is your background, experience? - hardware design including PCB? Software? or both? - and put that info on TWiki? - because until now, we have for hardware HenriValta; for software Scharkalvin; Btwizt for enclosure and I for little hardware and little software :-)
Maybe It would be good to have the planing work and assigned to people.
About PCB design, If HenriValta have experience, would you prefer to learn Kicad or let others do PCB in some other, even If not Open/Free tools?
About companies gaining some bucks, no problem for me, as I just want to have someone to sell me Free/Open hardware, however, If they will win, they could help, If we can get help from them, better, IMO.
Btwizt, would you help in design the enclosure? - If yes, please add yourself to the list in the page. Thank you.
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