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A single track, duplicated by TagCache
Llorean:
My frustration was with the fact that he claimed to be 100% certain of something without providing any details as to what testing he did that actually proved it. He never did something that verifies that it was the same file, as far as he described to me. He also made a claim that there was a list of songs that were affected, which is absolute nonsense, and never provided that list.
So my frustration circles around the fact that instead of accepting the help I was trying to offer, he ignored it, followed his own path, and repeated to me both hearsay (the list of songs that he has not provided) and information that he can't back up (his 100% certainty that they're the same song while the evidence he provides actually suggests that they aren't the same song).
I may have shouted at him yes, but I'm human, and I can lose my temper at times, as can anyone, and it's especially likely to happen when someone comes and asks me for help, I provide them with exactly one thing to do, and instead of doing it they repeat to me information that they've already told me as if somehow I'm too stupid to see in it what they think they see in it, rather than assuming that since I'm one of the persons they came to for help, maybe *I* see something that they don't and may have a better understanding of what's going on.
In all honesty, I'll probably snap at someone about half the times they come to me for help and then ignore my requests, because that is my biggest pet peeve: People who request help from an 'expert' and then ignore the suggestions or requests of the expert because they're so certain they know what's going wrong that they can't be bothered to verify it for him. I know I'm not right all the time. In fact, there's a fairly large amount of time something new or unsolved comes along. But the first step is always determining for certain what's going wrong, and that requires evidence.
soap:
--- Quote from: Chickenhead on September 27, 2006, 02:36:53 PM ---Well yes, I thought I had. To recap:
- loaded the file, rebuilt the database. I have two entries named the same in the Artist->album view for that album.
- erased the file, copied it back up with a different file name and slightly different track name, rebuild database
End result, two entries...one with the original title, one with the new title, both pointing at same file (as far as I can tell, since they both play the file and they both say the name of the file before playing on screen).
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Let us break this down.
--- Quote from: Chickenhead on September 27, 2006, 02:36:53 PM ---- erased the file, copied it back up with a different file name
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Here is where the previous hint by xlarge comes in. By deleting the file you most likely simply moved it to the hidden Recycle Bin.
--- Quote from: Chickenhead on September 27, 2006, 02:36:53 PM ---End result, two entries...one with the original title, one with the new title
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Right, the one with the original title is most likely still on your drive, just in the hidden Recycle Bin which tagcache is still able to index.
--- Quote from: Chickenhead on September 27, 2006, 02:36:53 PM ---both pointing at same file (as far as I can tell, since they both play the file and they both say the name of the file before playing on screen).
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They both sound the same because the two different files being played have the identical audio content (by your own description), only a different filename (which wouldn't show up in tagcache, for tagcache displays tags.
This gets right to the heart of the test Llorean asked you to perform from day one. By creating and saving a playlist with both entries for the song in it, you could open the playlist in a text editor and see the real, full path to the actual location of the tracks being indexed, and most likely you would find one copy resides in the Recycle Bin, while the other is where you intentionally placed it.
Or you might discover there are two different tracks on your drive indexed the same due to identical tags. Either way you would learn TagCache was doing exactly what it was supposed to do.
Or you might discover TagCache was infact indexing the same file twice. This would be a bug and nice to find. The amazing thing is Llorean's test (which he asked for less than one hour after your original query) would have answered all these questions within ten minutes.
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