<Untagged> IPOD 5G

[nugget]

All of my songs after the one starting with 99 so all the number ones and some text at the top are visible but like about 2400+ songs come up with untagged. I have done auto update intialize update in the tag cache menu and have set directory to ID3tag and still no luck. Itunes is screwed for me since version 7 so there is nothing in my library and i cannot add songs to it. I copied a folder called music which has all my music in it and albums which are in folders. I cant create a playlist and it seems to be draining my battery alot too. Also in the tagcache bit in the debug section it went through about 3515 songs/files even though i only have like less than 3000 songs. Also

[Febs]

Please take some time to re-write your post to clearly describe your problem, and we will do what we can to help you.  Among other things:

• Your post ends with the word "Also" so it does not appear to be complete.
• You don't identify the types of files you are talking about (mp3, FLAC, etc.).
• You don't identify what type of tags they have (ID3v1, ID3v2, etc.).
• You say "it" keeps draining your battery "alot," but you don't identify what "it" is or what you mean by "alot."
• You say that you can't create a playlist, but you don't say whether you are having trouble creating a playlist within Rockbox or in iTunes, and you don't explain what you have done to try to create a playlist and what problems you had in doing so.

[nugget]

Sorry it was like 3 am  

Um the majority of files are mp3 with some m4a and wma.
TBH i dno exactly what types of tags they are.
I did an intialize cache and it went through about 3500 files and then after 5 mins of use a fully charged battery died(i dont really have a problem with this as i know its in developmental stage).

I cant build a library in itunes and also when i do create playlist it does creating root,m3u and then when its done i hit view playlist and nothing happens.

Also as a side note whats the best way to put music on the ipod so its easy to use with rockbox. Is foobar good or just itunes or copying the music folder on?

[Yotto]

As to most of your questions, I don't know the answer, but the single best way I know of to copy music onto a rockboxed iPod is the dos COPY command, or perhaps Drag/Drop in Explorer.

[Febs]

TBH i dno exactly what types of tags they are.

Please, please, please, take a look at our posting guidelines, and write complete words in your posts.  

Are you certain that your files are tagged at all?  You might want to try a tagging program like mp3tag or Tag and Rename to check.

I did an intialize cache and it went through about 3500 files and then after 5 mins of use a fully charged battery died(i dont really have a problem with this as i know its in developmental stage).

This is not characteristic of Rockbox.  My 5G lasts something like 7 hours on a full charge.  I suspect that your battery was not actually charged to begin with.

I cant build a library in itunes and also when i do create playlist it does creating root,m3u and then when its done i hit view playlist and nothing happens.

"View playlist" views the current dynamic playlist.  So, if you have no music playing, it won't show you anything.  If you navigate to the root directory and select the root.m3u playlist that was created, Rockbox will start playing that playlist, and then "view playlist" will show you the songs in the playlist.  (You'll need to be in the File Browser to do this rather than the Tag Cache browser.

Also as a side note whats the best way to put music on the ipod so its easy to use with rockbox. Is foobar good or just itunes or copying the music folder on?

Different people have different preferences, but I like to just drag and drop.

[nugget]

hi sorry about my shortened words.

I downloaded a cvs build yesterday and all was working fine but when i got the latest cvs build today i got the untagged songs again. any ideas  

[Febs]

How are you installing the new build?

[nugget]

i copy and paste the .rockbox folder and the rockbox.ipod file over to my ipod and overwrite the old one.

[Febs]

As I suggested earlier, you should try using a tagging program to ensure that the files that are coming up as "untagged" actually do have tags.

[nugget]

IM sure they have tags as they have been tagged b4.

[Llorean]

Nugget, read the forum guidelines in the announcement forum before making any more posts please. It's clear that you're ignoring our instructions to do so.

Also, have you yet double checked that they're tagged as Febs instructed? Have you checked that in a WPS that only shows tags, and does not default to filenames, that they show up?

[nugget]

sorry about the forum rules about not using proper english im kind of multi tasking at 2 30 am. When i play the song in WPS they show the tagged version. Also i noticed in the tag cache section in the debug menu that it says db ready: NO and that is after i have finished the intialization.

edit: I have done a restart and the db ready has changed to yes. I have also noticed that it has got the artists in the artists menu but in the track menu is where it seems to be untagged however if i choose an artist it shows the song name. I have chose in the (hold menu) menu show files i ahve set it to id3 database and music. And i still get the same thing.

Also just a curious question (not a cop out r anything) How does Itunes seem to read the tags of the songs? (I know that Rockbox is still in development and this will probably be fixed)

[Llorean]

Is it a WPS that definitely does not fall back on filenames? Most WPSes use filenames if tags are not found, which can often make it look exactly like the tag were being used.

[nugget]

I am currently using rockamp blue wps. I am not sure if it uses filenames but it dosent seem like it does as the songs. k well i think your right and there not tagged, dont no why, but I got to the end and there are song names.

Just in case you missed it: Also just a curious question (not a cop out r anything) How does Itunes seem to read the tags of the songs? (I know that Rockbox is still in development and this will probably be fixed)?

[bascule]

Also i noticed in the tag cache section in the debug menu that it says db ready: NO and that is after i have finished the intialization.

That will be the problem. For whatever reason, the Tag Cache database has not been initialised properly. Go into the .rockbox directory, delete all the *.tcd files, then re-initialise the Tag Cache from the menu.

Then reboot and you should see a mesage 'Committing Tag Cache x/13. Once this has completed, it should be working OK.