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keuleJ:
Sorry, I think some of you guys didn't read half of my post. I said, make it optional: You could select if you want to boot into recording screen, wps (which would probably resume), FM Radio, Main Menu or File Browser. Just saying, the Main Menu should be default and that it should have entries for WPS, Radio and Recording. even if you have dedicated Buttons for some of these. This redundancy makes it easier to use, I think. If you select File Browser, it's nearly the same as now.

As for the fonts: Once we have a release version, we should include the fonts that are used for the WPSes that are supplied with the release.

If I'm really in the minority of users that have more than 400 entries in a directory, then I think the default is fine.

bluebrother:

--- Quote from: keuleJ on September 25, 2006, 03:16:31 AM ---Sorry, I think some of you guys didn't read half of my post. I said, make it optional: You could select if you want to boot into recording screen, wps (which would probably resume), FM Radio, Main Menu or File Browser. Just saying, the Main Menu should be default and that it should have entries for WPS, Radio and Recording.
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I believe I read your complete post. But I argued that having such a "main menu" is waste and useless IMO and also something like that should never be default. I even gave you an argumentation why and why you won't convince the devs that this solution is good or should even get implemented. Consistency should get adressed, but this is a different thing and has nothing to do with an additional menu.
Also, showing the wps without anything playing doesn't make sense at all. Which is the reason why the wps isnt't the "main" screen. But this has been discussed several times before.

--- Quote ---As for the fonts: Once we have a release version, we should include the fonts that are used for the WPSes that are supplied with the release.
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It has already been agreed by the devs that the release will be a complete install, including the fonts package. It has even been discussed about including the manual also. So there is no point in discussing this.

LinusN:
Just my $0.02:


* I don't mind having a startup menu (called "main menu" in the discussion). I think it could make things easier for the newbies, and you can later select the startup screen in the settings.
* I wouldn't mind having an (optional) icon based GUI, with icons placed in a matrix along with a text field describing the icon. However, we would still want to select the pure text-based GUI for the smaller LCD's and for the blind. These icons should of course be loaded from disk as part of the theme.
* I suggest that we try to approach the intuitivity issue incrementally. It will not be easy to change the entire menu layout at once.
* Setting the "max files in dir" higher than 400 on a player with more than 16 megabytes of RAM won't make a measurable impact on the battery life. It's only a matter of kilobytes. The Archos and iFP targets have very little RAM, and they need all the buffer space they can get, but the other ones can easily spare a few kilobytes.
BTW, we discussed the GUI in the IRC channel some time ago, and we came to the conclusion that we wanted a more "flat" arrangement of screens (mainly an issue with how the code is designed), and that a startup menu isn't all that bad.

adamti91:
Well I have taken a back seat for awhile, just reading posts. I agree with points on both sides of the issue, but obviously lean toward my side of the argument. I believe the suggested "Main Menu" (Music/FM Radio/Recording/Games/Utilites/Settings) is the best option (Graphical, as an option), with the current default menu available as an option as well.

-Adam

Febs:
What would you consider to be a "utility"?

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