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LinusN:

--- Quote from: belly917 on September 22, 2006, 10:07:03 AM ---I'd have to agree with keuleJ, while I've never had problem navigating the interface of rockbox, it's always bothered me that having the entry point for the radio or the recording screen in the settings menu seemed like an afterthought.

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1) The menu is not only for settings, thus the FM radio and recording are not in the settings menu.

2) Yes, FM radio and recording came after music playback in the original Rockbox on the Archos, so you can call it an afterthought if you wish. In fact, all features that are added to Rockbox are basically afterthoughts, since that is how Rockbox is developed.


--- Quote ---I propose that rockbox hosts a "default rockbox color wps" design competition.  This wps should scale well across all the color targets and would present an initial unified front to the new rockbox user community.
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And the winner is: iCatcher!

belly917:

--- Quote from: LinusN on September 22, 2006, 11:29:55 AM ---And the winner is: iCatcher!
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LinusN, I appreciate the humor!  ;D

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't iCatcher require the Album art patch?  And if so, how can it be included as the default WPS in a daily build?

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I was wrong, the icatcher on the wiki is different than the one included in daily/cvs builds as Llorean points out below.  I never copy over the wps folder when I update rockbox because I use my own, hence I never noticed it.
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And sorry if I didn't make it clearer before, but my thought was that this unified rockbox WPS would be the default that shows up when you first run rockbox.. not the simple text one that is the current default.

I know that the default WPS is currently hardcoded into rockbox's code, but with the possible changes that Llorean discussed, this sounds plausible.


p.s.   Talk about thread hyjacking.. I never liked the simplebox idea, but once the question was raised of suggestions to change the rockbox interface, the topic shifted to a more interesting subject and took off.

Sorry for contributing to the hyjacking.

DrSpud:

--- Quote from: keuleJ on September 22, 2006, 02:55:32 AM ---
* make a "main menu"
* Browse files
* WPS (Maybe now playing or something)
* Radio
* Recording
* Settings
* Browse Plugins
* Play Button always goes to WPS
* Rec Button always goes to Recording
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Believe it or not, that's very similar to how I changed the menus in my patch. Thanks for confirming that this style of layout is what people would expect  :D
Seriously, we should just have the main functions of the player on the 'main' screen - wps, file browser, radio, recording, plugins, and also playlist & bookmark controls (IMHO) - I would have had the first two in my patch if I knew the code better  ;)
Then put all the options - organized neatly - in a single 'Settings' menu, and we'd have what nearly any user would expect as far as navigation and usability goes.
Simply put, regardless of how RB works and is structured internally it should present an interface that makes sense from the user's point of view.

Llorean:
Well, this thread is still discussing the merits of a simplebox idea, and the way to achieve similar goals without forking the Rockbox project, so it's not really hijacked (yet).

Also, no, iCatcher does not require Album Art. It's been included with CVS Rockbox for ages, and is usually what I recommend now for people who want to change WPSes to one that will skip less than the default with peakmeters.


And to many of us, starting at the file tree does make sense to our point of view. The vast majority of the time you're selecting a song or playlist to play, so the most logical place to start is where you can choose one from. I think part of the problem is that people have an expectation of starting in a menuing system because other firmwares do so, but I really don't see the benefit of requiring extra keypresses to get to the filetree every single time I turn my unit on.

RedBreva:
Isn't the fact that iCatcher (for example) is 'better' on newer platforms (ie no skipping on iPods etc) a good reason in it's own right to seriously consider using it as 'The Default', regardless of any aesthetic considerations.

It would look 'better' - The poster is being subjective!! - and would in likelihood reduce some of the newby support questions regarding performance!

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