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mnhnhyouh:
Here is where I become unsure of how separate builds are put together.

Is it possible to have a different default wps for each build. That way when a new user boots to RB the first time they are greeted with a nice interface?

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Genre9mp3:

--- Quote from: Llorean on September 22, 2006, 10:17:55 AM ---iCatcher, that was its name. It has versions for nearly all targets
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Actually it currently has versions for _all_ targets since 18 of September! :)


--- Quote ---18 Sep 19:17
Hardeep Sidhu
"iCatcher/UniCatcher WPS updates by Ioannis Koutoulakis: code update to the new volume/battery enum system and new versions for H10 5GB, Gigabeat and X5 remote"
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Llorean:
At the moment the default WPS is actually hard coded into Rockbox in a way where it would be a hassle to have a different one loaded for different players.

Here's where the interesting bit comes in: The plan is to move to the config mostly being saved in a file, rather than on a sector, which would mean the default WPS can actually be set to a file by setting the line in the included default config file, I would think, and so since each player includes a different version of iCatcher, or whatever WPS, each one would load its version of it quite easily, I think.

Remember, this is speculation, but I *think* it should be doable easily if/when that system is implemented. Until then, not as easy since the default wps is hard-coded, but if you could convince someone to load a .cfg file as their first action, it could of course change the theme to something prettier.


Genre9mp3: That is good to hear. :) Clearly I'm out of date.

keuleJ:

--- Quote from: Llorean on September 22, 2006, 10:15:22 AM ---One of the core concepts of Rockbox is that it's based around the filetree (or tagcache browser) and that the WPS is a layer on top of that, not the main screen. Reorganizing it so that you start in the menu, and file browser is an option in there is quite contrary to the conceptual structure of Rockbox as it is currently.

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Well then let me play Advocatus Diaboli and say that this structure is maybe not suitable anymore for the newer players with more options (radio and recording for instance) and that we should think about something different.
Even a graphic menu would be possible, I think. Maybe optional, maybe not for all targets, but possible.
Reading default values automatically from a config file and using a good theme (eg. iCatcher) would be great.

Llorean:
I'm not sure there's much benefit to come from a graphical menu. It'll cost in battery life for what is essentially eye-candy, and I don't know how that relates to actually making it more user friendly.

As for the "newer players" thing, some of the oldest Rockbox players had FM radio and recording, so that's not going to fly as an argument in favour of moving the main screen to the menu. In the case of Recording devices there's usually a recording button, and the plan is to eventually allow this to invoke the recording screen anyway, most likely, so again there's a one-button press to get to the screen you want.

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