Playlist issue (>10,000 songs)

[Least100Seraphs]

Hey all. New user, first post, unfortunately a problem.

I am using the daily build 09/18/06 of Rockbox for my iRiver H340 (bootloader patched from V1.29J) and despite having set my "Max Files in Playlist" to 15,000 (Menu, General Settings, System, Limits, Max Playlist Size, 15000), whenever I load the Playlist I get a "Playlist Buffer Full" message, and the unit only loads 10,000 songs.

I've had the system write a .cfg file and I've looked in it, and it saving the 15,000 setting, so it's not that.

Is there any way around this problem? Is there perhaps a CVS build out there that remedies it, or is there some other way that I can have my entire library on shuffle?

Just to clarify, this is a concern of the playlist load feature. The iriver can see the 11,500 ish songs without any problems, and I can access and play them all - and it can write a playlist.m3u with all the correct file names and paths in it - it just doesn't seem to be able to handle having more than 10k in the... memory?.. of the unit.

Thanks for any help you can give.

[LinusN]

I tried to replicate the problem on my H300, but I failed. Here's what I did:

1) Set the max playlist setting to 15000

2) Reboot to make the setting take effect

3) Create a playlist of 11500 entries with the same song

4) Play it

No problem.

How do you know that it only loads exactly 10000 songs?

[cal]

I have an Iuadio X5 and I have the exact same problem.  Limit is set to 20k, playlist should have 12k but when I select it, the playlist only loads 10k songs and i get the same message:  Playlist Buffer Full".  I'm using patched build 060904-0132.

PS.  I have another problem that I posted on the Iaudiophile fora, I don't know if both may be related.  The problem is that tagcache completely ignores certain folders while it adds another one at the same level.

[Llorean]

Please, confirm that your problem happens with a new and unpatched build before continuing. You're using a 14 day old version, when changes have happened to TagCache and the playlisting system, and we have no way of knowing whether any patches you're using could somehow be impacting this matter (even if it seems like the patch *shouldn't* sometimes they can have odd side effects)

[cal]

  Which one should I download, the daily or the CVS build?  Pardon the stupidity, I usually download the patched builds from the Iaudiophile fora.

[Llorean]

Please, use whole words. "Forum". We have rules about language on this forum because many of our users depend on machine translation of one form or another.

The CVS build is the newer. The daily build is a CVS build that is archived once per day.

Patched builds are entirely unofficial and are not supported by these forums.

[cal]

You were right.  I applied the unpatched build and the playlist loaded up with no problems.  I'm updating tag cache to see if the other problem is still there.  Thanks

[mnhnhyouh]

Please, use whole words. "Forum".


Patched builds are entirely unofficial and are not supported by these forums.

Actually there is no word "forums", the plural of "forum" is "fora".



h

[cal]

^ I was gonna say, but hey!, rules are rules and it's just a word...and not many people use it even though it's the correct word.

[mnhnhyouh]

I dont mind people being jumped on for not using correct language, but I do if they are using correct language, and the jumper doesnt.

h

[Llorean]

Well, I didn't know that there was more than one Iaudiophile forum. I thought that there was simply one site. Forums is also the plural of forum, at least in English according to the resources I have. Meanwhile, I find no reference to the word fora. So, references on that would be welcome.

You may notice though, that I used it in the singular.

[afruff23]

It's latin. If you search "fora" on wikipedia, then it redirects to "forum". Anyways, who cares?

[mnhnhyouh]

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fora&x=0&y=0

Forums has recently become accepted. As will many new words. But it is still a bastardisation of the latin.

h

[Llorean]

Bastardization of Latin or not, forums is equally valid. And while I've never seen "fora" before, I'll accept it as valid. I've especially not seen it used in the context of internet forums. This becomes especially valid when it is concidered that words like "mouse" are considered to be pluralized differently in the context of computers (though in this case it can be mouses or mice).

Either way, I'm not wrong in that "Forums" is a valid use, but neither is he. As long as machine translation works with fora, it's fine. I *was* wrong however in my thought that "fora" was improper. So, I apologize for that.

I'll allow it, but my research comes across this:

The English plural forums is preferred to the Latin plural fora in normal English usage.
    * Ref: Modern English Usage, 2nd Edition, ed. Sir Ernest Gowers, Oxford 1968 (article '-um', p.658).

So, clearly it can be argued either way.

The point is, these forums must try to be able to be tranlated by machines where possible. If fora works for that, then fine.

[LinusN]

Wow. I was delighted that there were so many new posts in this thread, as I wanted to know if there really is a bug in Rockbox, but all I found was a debate about the plural form of "forum". Sigh.