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Offline CapnBry

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How do I play just one song, ID3 Database view
« on: September 11, 2006, 03:37:50 PM »
I can't seem to find this in the rockbox manual for my new iAudio X5.  From the ID3 Database file view, I arrow right until I get to the song I want to hear, now how do I get it to just play this one song?

Select: Starts playing the song, but builds a playlist with every file currently listed.
Right arrow: Same as Select.
Long-Select: Gives me playlist options to insert or queue, both of which put it onto the currently running playlist.

Is there a way to clear the dynamic playlist and create a new one with just the one track in it?  (From here I'm going to start appending other single tracks)  There will always be a current playlist and / or a file currently playing.
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Offline Deano

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Re: How do I play just one song, ID3 Database view
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2006, 04:19:54 PM »
To play single tracks I always:

- Stop Playback (holding down play/pause in WPS)
- Find track to play
- Hold Select > Playlist Options > Insert

Should then play the one selected file.
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Offline CapnBry

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Re: How do I play just one song, ID3 Database view
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2006, 04:51:56 PM »
You're my hero, this works just like it is suppsed to.  

The manual mentioned that "... if you want to play only a single song and then
stop, stop playback, ..." but I had no clue how to stop playback, only pause it.  

The rockbox X5 manual says "Please add correct keys" for how to stop playback from the WPS.
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Offline bluebrother

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Re: How do I play just one song, ID3 Database view
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2006, 02:46:19 AM »
Quote from: CapnBry on September 11, 2006, 04:51:56 PM
The rockbox X5 manual says "Please add correct keys" for how to stop playback from the WPS.
The manual says this because at the time of writing the keys where unknown for the guys writing this sentence. Also, some writers only own one device, so they are unable testing the key mappings on other devices (except asking for help with for example such "descriptions"). So if you want to get the manual better, why don't you check out those keys and report the correct ones?
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Offline CapnBry

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Re: How do I play just one song, ID3 Database view
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2006, 10:34:37 AM »
I just went to do that but apparently it has already been fixed.  CVS shows /manual/platform/x5.tex v1.10 (16 Aug 2006) has the right information in it, however the X5 manual I have (from daily builds, 2006-09-06) does not.  I grabbed today's 2006-09-12, and it is has the button mappings set.  Bizarre.
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Offline bluebrother

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Re: How do I play just one song, ID3 Database view
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2006, 12:35:11 PM »
Quote from: CapnBry on September 12, 2006, 10:34:37 AM
I grabbed today's 2006-09-12, and it is has the button mappings set.  Bizarre.
Not at all.
This is a result from the continuously ongoing work on the manual: Previously the manual had the button mappings itself directly in the text describing the functions. Thus, there were only macros that actually expanded in the button names. Now, as the button action stuff came in, we're trying to mimic this as it makes writing a lot easier (simply because we only need to care for the action, and the mapping action -> button is done in the platform files). Thus, while the actions were already defined they haven't been used. After conversion the button names are correct as they are defined by the action system.
The same applies to a lot of other locations in the manual were the buttons haven't changed to use the action system yet. Currently the work on the manual is pretty slow. Like for Rockbox itself the speed of changes in the manual depends on the spare time of the guys involved. For myself, I'm pretty busy with RL ATM. So expect more glitches like that (but if you want out help us out with it you're welcome).
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Offline CapnBry

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Re: How do I play just one song, ID3 Database view
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2006, 04:51:35 PM »
Yeah I was thinking the manual wasn't such a fast moving target (as far as documenting base functionality), but checking the CVS logs I see that it has been undergoing a lot of changes.  It's pretty cool how you can have one core manual that describes rockbox but has the right context information for each of your target platforms.

Even better is the fact that the rockbox manual is 10x more informative than the original firmware manual (which didn't described what the buttons did, but not what everything in the menu or all the icons on the screen were).
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Re: How do I play just one song, ID3 Database view
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2006, 05:20:52 PM »
Often when I want to stop listening, I want to hear the last tune to the end, then stop - and not stop in the middle - and not stop the song and restart it to play only that one song (as described above).

This is AFAIK not possible.
Would it be so hard to fix a "stop after this track" mode?
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Re: How do I play just one song, ID3 Database view
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2006, 06:45:36 PM »
How hard is it to just press stop when the song ends?

This seems very very very far into the "fluff" category in terms of features someone would like.
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Re: How do I play just one song, ID3 Database view
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2006, 08:17:40 AM »
How hard is it to press "left" when the song ends to hear it again, instead of using the "repeat one"-mode?
Probably there's a lot of reasons to have "repeat one", but I never use it.

I could find several ways to use "play one and stop".

For example: This is to me a far better thing than "sleep timer".
Put on that nice song with the soft ending. Fall asleep. Player stops when the song ends. Sleep on.... Any new song would wake me up, however soft it is.

Also: Using the player for a show. Play one backing track - all of it, but not a sound of the next track. Stop. When the dancers/singers/whatevers are ready: play next backing track. Stop.

Hmm.
Maybe this function would be better as "play one and pause".
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Offline Llorean

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Re: How do I play just one song, ID3 Database view
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2006, 08:26:00 AM »
mlind: Both of your situations are NOT what that person was asking for. Both of yours can be handled by having a single song playlist with repeat off. Stopping at the end of a playlist is different from what he asked for which is:

Be listening to a playlist, be somewhere in the middle, and tell the player to "stop when this song ends" rather than stopping at the end of the playlist, or immediately.


As for the "Repeat 1" functionality, this is very helpful for people trying to memorize something or practice something, where your hands are busy elsewhere perhaps playing an instrument or holding your own copy of the script.
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Offline mlind

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Re: How do I play just one song, ID3 Database view
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2006, 08:32:33 AM »
Ok. You're saying I should start my own thread. ::)

Catch you later.
Back to work.

Edit: Added my comments to http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/482
« Last Edit: September 18, 2006, 05:30:42 PM by mlind »
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