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Offline GuitarRocker2562

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A Rockbox Music Player?
« on: September 07, 2006, 10:28:40 PM »
Do you think one day there will be a rockbox music player? That would be awesome! It could sync any music device by your preferences and it could play every audio and video codec rockbox can. I think that this would be a great side project starting 2007. I thought it could be based from Songbird, that is going pretty well right now. So, anyone up to it. Oh, and Llorean, what do you have to say about this? Everyone listens to you (I guess we have to). Anyway, let me know.
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Re: A Rockbox Music Player?
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2006, 12:18:56 AM »
I don't understand what you're proposing.  A dedicated hardware device that can... What?

I have a "rockbox music player" right now.  It's charging via usb from my computer and playing out my desk speakers.  If I instead go into disk mode I can play it from the computer with any mp3 player available to man.

What are you suggesting that is different than these two things?  I'm not being snide, I'm honestly curious becasue I can't think of anything.
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Offline Speedforneed

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Re: A Rockbox Music Player?
« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2006, 12:28:52 AM »
Well, if you mean a software Rockbox Music Player, like as a replacement for Windows Media Player, or Winamp, or Foobar...  I don't really see a point in that.  Maybe you are thinking something I am not.
 
As far as hardware...  All the players that support Rockbox are Rockbox music players.
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Offline Sando

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Re: A Rockbox Music Player?
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2006, 05:39:24 AM »
An app that generated the tagcache database for you on sync could be very useful though that would probably be more appropriate as a plugin (eg ml_pod, foo_pod) for a media player rather than a full blown app.
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Offline GuitarRocker2562

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Re: A Rockbox Music Player?
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2006, 08:11:51 AM »
I meant like a replacement for itunes or windows media player. It would be able to handle many more file types and it could sync with a device based on your preference. (Select playlists and copy them to your player automatically, and build a database. Like iTunes.)
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Offline Davide-NYC

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Re: A Rockbox Music Player?
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2006, 02:33:28 PM »
http://www.foobar2000.org/
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Offline Llorean

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Re: A Rockbox Music Player?
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2006, 03:30:26 PM »
Yeah, I think Foobar2000 + a plugin that generated the database would pretty much cover "Something like Rockbox but on the PC" as it is.
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Offline Rincewind

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Re: A Rockbox Music Player?
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2006, 03:36:26 PM »
Quote from: Llorean on September 08, 2006, 03:30:26 PM
Yeah, I think Foobar2000 + a plugin that generated the database would pretty much cover "Something like Rockbox but on the PC" as it is.

and a tool to sync runtime data between foobar and rockbox, then it would be perfect. But I don't know how it should handle the playcount of a file that you play in foobar and in rockbox between syncs...
The foobar database is closed source, btw. It would need some reverse engineering to make a plugin to convert it to and from rockbox.
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Offline Llorean

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Re: A Rockbox Music Player?
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2006, 03:44:18 PM »
Even with a closed source database format, doesn't the foobar plugin API have the ability to add songs or update songs in the database, or retrieve their information?
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Offline Rincewind

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Re: A Rockbox Music Player?
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2006, 05:44:20 PM »
I tried to program a rockbox<->foobardb playcount converter, but the problem is, that the foobar playcount plugin stores the data somewhere in the db, wich is not documented in the API. According to the API, every field in the db matches a real ID3 tag. It seems that the developer of Foobar just extended the db to make this plugin work without changing the API.

Maybe I didn't try hard enough. It should be possible.
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Offline saratoga

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Re: A Rockbox Music Player?
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2006, 11:41:51 PM »
Quote from: Rincewind on September 08, 2006, 05:44:20 PM
I tried to program a rockbox<->foobardb playcount converter, but the problem is, that the foobar playcount plugin stores the data somewhere in the db, wich is not documented in the API. According to the API, every field in the db matches a real ID3 tag.

I believe the most recent version of the plugin actually can be set to store the stats as standard tag fields, in which case they should be accessible.  Or at worst, you could read the file tags.  
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Offline Rincewind

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Re: A Rockbox Music Player?
« Reply #11 on: September 09, 2006, 06:45:10 PM »
If I have nothing else to code, maybe I try it. But at the moment the playcount in rockbox isn't very reliable, I have a file that somehow has a playcount of 54 although I only have played it about 3 times  :o
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