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Offline Llorean

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Re: Rockbox Logo...
« Reply #240 on: October 03, 2008, 06:10:00 PM »
I thought the idea was to see how well loved the old one is? Why are we comparing it to Hayden's now, rather than any other suggestion we've been given?

One thing I'd like to ask Hayden: Ignoring the "they can scale down to smaller images" factor since that's pretty much irrelevant, what exactly is your goal with the image redesigns? My personal perspective on your redesigns is that you're basically attempting to take any life out of them and make it "a boring word and an icon", which I know sounds really negative, but it's the impression I get from it, and I'd like to hear what your intent with it was to understand. At that point maybe I can offer some constructive feedback instead.
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Offline yapper

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Re: Rockbox Logo...
« Reply #241 on: October 03, 2008, 07:09:09 PM »
Quote from: Llorean on October 03, 2008, 06:10:00 PM
I thought the idea was to see how well loved the old one is? Why are we comparing it to Hayden's now, rather than any other suggestion we've been given?
Because I don't know of an internationally recognised scale of love  ::)  Comparing (with one or more) contenders might give logo designers a clue where the consensus of opinion is, in terms of preferred design style.

Clearly not everyone is 'deeply in love' with the current logo, but determining what (if anything) is perceived to be better is difficult to judge.

Based on the default theme 'project', it might be an idea to find what people prefer (based on a few proposals), then refine the preferred offering, and then see if that is deemed acceptable as a replacement.

Quote from: Llorean on October 03, 2008, 06:10:00 PM
Ignoring the "they can scale down to smaller images" factor since that's pretty much irrelevant.
The logo is shown scaled down on the DAPs, so there is relevance (IMHO)
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Offline Llorean

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Re: Rockbox Logo...
« Reply #242 on: October 03, 2008, 07:26:05 PM »
Quote from: yapper on October 03, 2008, 07:09:09 PM
The logo is shown scaled down on the DAPs, so there is relevance (IMHO)
The logo isn't even remotely scaled down to the level he scaled it in the way he scaled it, nor is it necessary that the website logo be used without modification on the DAP. The fact is, the Rockbox logo can be scaled down through simplification (removal of the textures to replace with solid colors, removal of detail text) to scale down an awful lot and remain recognizable. Further modification (such as shortening the text to "Rb") for tiny screens or changing contrasts for grayscale and B&W targets is also possible. As it stands, the Rockbox forum staff icons are small enough to fit on the screen of any current bitmap target we have or, as far as I know, have looked at, and are still pretty darn recognizable.

So, yes, the scaling test is irrelevant in the manner he performed it, and cannot be objectively useful without a definition of the minimum size, color depth, etc, that it can be scaled to.




As to the voting, who gets to vote then? It's clear several individuals don't like this image, but frankly most of them also don't matter too much. They're people who've found this thread specifically because they don't like the image. How do you propose to get all the people who are happy with the image, and thus have never looked at this thread in the first place, to vote? You're asking for an unquestionably skewed vote.

Should it just be the few people who maintain the website (and thus make the very final decision) who vote, since those people at least have the authority to reject images?
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Re: Rockbox Logo...
« Reply #243 on: October 03, 2008, 07:44:45 PM »
Quote from: Llorean on October 03, 2008, 07:26:05 PM
Should it just be the few people who maintain the website (and thus make the very final decision) who vote, since those people at least have the authority to reject images?

It would be keeping with tradition to hold a vote and then just have Bjorn choose his favorite wouldn't it?   :P
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Re: Rockbox Logo...
« Reply #244 on: October 03, 2008, 08:09:56 PM »
Let's just rename the whole project and do a new logo at the same time  :P
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Re: Rockbox Logo...
« Reply #245 on: October 03, 2008, 08:39:16 PM »
But Rockbox is such a good name...  What could be better than that..?
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Re: Rockbox Logo...
« Reply #246 on: October 03, 2008, 08:49:46 PM »
I could never imagine Rockbox being named anything different, or ever having a different logo.
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Re: Rockbox Logo...
« Reply #247 on: October 03, 2008, 09:02:14 PM »
I could probably live with a new logo if someone came up with something good, but the name definitely has to stay...
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Re: Rockbox Logo...
« Reply #248 on: October 03, 2008, 09:44:31 PM »
Orpheus?   ;)
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Re: Rockbox Logo...
« Reply #249 on: October 03, 2008, 10:17:33 PM »
I strongly agree that the x and the b are too close together.  I also do not like the way the o and x mate, IMHO it makes the o look like an a.
I also think the current logo looks better with the colors "negativeized" as it clearly looks like a blueprint in progress then.  I think the construction lines around the word Rock are less obvious when displayed as black on yellow.
I assume the logo was originally shown as white on blue?
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Re: Rockbox Logo...
« Reply #250 on: October 03, 2008, 10:23:26 PM »
I do agree there definitely could be some space between the X and the O. And the inverted look isn't bad at all, though at this point we seem to have adopted "Rockbox yellow" for use in a lot of other places.
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Re: Rockbox Logo...
« Reply #251 on: October 03, 2008, 10:34:35 PM »
In an idle moment, I tried spacing the O and X to be consistent with the B and O spacing, but it results in the X being isolated from the O entirely ... a spacing fix would probably entail a rework of all of the 'box' text.
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Re: Rockbox Logo...
« Reply #252 on: October 04, 2008, 11:18:19 AM »
I made this for a bit of fun and practice at graphics creation (still a bit unrefined):





Tried to keep the same sort of feel as the original, but with a cleaner look. Should probably be fixing my themes instead though...
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Re: Rockbox Logo...
« Reply #253 on: October 04, 2008, 11:23:16 AM »
It's got the note, and is very legible at small sizes.
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Re: Rockbox Logo...
« Reply #254 on: October 04, 2008, 11:26:24 AM »
Quote from: denny on October 04, 2008, 11:18:19 AM


I like this one. I'm not sure yet if I prefer it to the current logo, but it is nice.
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