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Llorean:
We prefer not to sticky topics here. There's just too many topics that one could argue *could* be stickied, it makes more sense to expect people to just follow the guidelines and run a quick search or two on their area of interest.

It would be also good to remember that the people you most need to convince are the people who really like the original image. The line "think evolution, not revolution" means "We're more likely to prefer ones inspired by and closely related to the current one." Saying "Well, sometimes evolution makes jumps" just means to us "I don't really like your current image so I'm going to make something completely different and call it evolution."

And, as to your legibility test, why exactly are we scaling the full website header image down to ridiculously small sizes, exactly? (PS: It looks to me like your scaling is done by a poor algorithm, look in the top left corner of this page to see a similarly scaled one to your medium image, but with a lot less ugliness, and I suspect both our and your image would look better with better scaling).

As to the treble clef, in a widespread non-technical sense the treble clef is considered more or less symbolic of music in general, and so suitable as being very recognizable. As, obviously, we are not about a container made of stone.

hayden:

--- Quote from: Llorean on October 02, 2008, 04:06:17 AM ---We prefer not to sticky topics here. There's just too many topics that one could argue *could* be stickied, it makes more sense to expect people to just follow the guidelines and run a quick search or two on their area of interest.

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ok fair enough


--- Quote from: Llorean on October 02, 2008, 04:06:17 AM ---It would be also good to remember that the people you most need to convince are the people who really like the original image. The line "think evolution, not revolution" means "We're more likely to prefer ones inspired by and closely related to the current one." Saying "Well, sometimes evolution makes jumps" just means to us "I don't really like your current image so I'm going to make something completely different and call it evolution."
And, as to your legibility test, why exactly are we scaling the full website header image down to ridiculously small sizes, exactly? (PS: It looks to me like your scaling is done by a poor algorithm, look in the top left corner of this page to see a similarly scaled one to your medium image, but with a lot less ugliness, and I suspect both our and your image would look better with better scaling).

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Obviously no one on the rockbox team has asked for design concepts so this situation is different to a normal design process - my personal reason for throwing my 2c into the logo ring was that (even though the current logo is loved like a child) there are reasons to be critical of it.

If i had to state only a few things I would say (and this is for future endevours because i'm blowing my 2 cent budget here)
1) the treble clef gets lost at small (forum id) sizes. (perhaps more than a simple note)
2) the tagline is lost quickly - even with a better algorhythm than the one I was using
3) the space between the 'o' & 'x' isn't very well defined
4) unsure whether the code on the right hand side is secondary - or just additional texture or part of logo

a case in point: ford
http://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/archives/can_ford_afford_a_redesign.php
this is an argument for both evolution and revolution.

- the oldest clearly had some problems first jump was radical
- since then has been carefully maintained with minor tweaks
- looks like they are going with another radical jump soon?


on a closing note:
Keep up the great work all - work like you're doing + active forums help keep the community vibrant.
Looking forward to version 3.1!

hayden

yapper:
I'd be curious to see some indication of how well loved the current logo is.

Llorean:
Do you have a numeric scale for love, or were you just looking for a chorus of voices to say "I like it better than anything that's been suggested so far"?

yapper:
Maybe something a bit more objective, like a poll to seek opinions of the current logo versus the most recent offering by hayden.

Voting options could include "new is better than old", "old is better than new", "like both", "like neither" and the obligatory "I prefer not to answer"  :)

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