jClix ipod5g theme

[Jon_]

What's going on here the wps doesn't work properly anymore. When playing a audio file it does display any information at all just the wps background. I've reseted settings, re-download the package, and reapplied the theme but nothing seems to work. So i'm wondering if you can post the old rockbox jclick wps theme at some location that can be downloadable, i prefer that than this current one.

Thanks
Take Care,
Jon

[pijulius]

What's going on here the wps doesn't work properly anymore. When playing a audio file it does display any information at all just the wps background. I've reseted settings, re-download the package, and reapplied the theme but nothing seems to work. So i'm wondering if you can post the old rockbox jclick wps theme at some location that can be downloadable, i prefer that than this current one.

Thanks
Take Care,
Jon

Hi Jon,

Did you redownload the themes too? which build ver are you using? the ipod photo?
Thanks,
Julius

[Jon_]

I would like to know if you can post the old wps files at another location cause the old jclick wps is compattable with the senab jbuild, and no offence but i prefer using senab's build beucase of the extra features that is provided with it.

Take Care,
Jon

[Sweet Spot]

Hey Julius, I just got back from Hungary a few days ago,  and just wanted to comment on the new themes and build. Looks great ! Beautiful work as usual sir. I decided to start fresh with your latest build, and by that I mean deleted my entire RB directory and all other RB stuff, because I originally downloaded and installed Senab's build on your recommendation (from your site), but it wound up being a minor disaster.

For some reason, after Sinab's beautiful boot screen finished, I'd try to go into the menu, but after that, everything would just lock up on me, and I could actually hear the hard drive platter making a very strange sound as I tilted the iPod in a back and forth motion. The only way I got the iPod to do anything, was by booting into the Apple firmware, so I just decided to wipe out that build and start fresh with yours.

At first, there seemed to be a problem with how the fonts were lining up, but that was yesterday's build, and today's, seems just fine, except for one minor thing, which I haven't experienced with a build for a long time (probably due to the fact that I was holding on to an older and very stable build). Every once in a while, I experience "hiccups", which is probably related to a buffering issue (?), I'm guessing. But this might be wrong too, because on one song in particular, it just kept doing it over and over and over, so I switched tracks.

Later on though, it happened only one time, in the middle of a song, and this behavior occurs I believe with one song, about every 3 or 4 songs, to my recollection. I'll have to do a more thorough investigation to be sure though.

Fake Edit: I actually had to hard reboot the ipod, (menu+select) because while playing a song, I had no control of anything. The backlight would come on when I touched the scroll wheel, but I wasn't able to perform any actions. Looking at the WPS showed that the song playing still had about 20 seconds to go, when in reality, it had already finished playing, and was on to the next song already. I'll try again with the same song to make sure it isn't the file its self, but I've played that file before without error in the past so...  In any case, I'm now listening to that same song which had constant hiccuping issues before, and yes, the same thing is now happening. I'm going to transfer the songs to my PC and see if the same things happen there. (though I already have them on the pc, I wonder if they've been corrupted ?)

Lastly, an aesthetic issue which you may or may not agree with about the design of the themes. On each one, at the bottom is an icon for "play" and "pause". IMO the order in which they're represented, is backwards. For instance, when a song is playing, it shows the pause icon, and when on pause, it shows the play icon. To me, that's a bit misleading/confusing, which in turn becomes a bit annoying (just because I"m anal retentive about some things) because I think it should be the other way around, but maybe that's just me ?

Fake edit #2:  There also seems to be a big lag problem now. As I'm attempting to access my list of songs by pressing the select button, nothing happens for at least 10 seconds. The lag is also affecting how fast I'm able to increase or decrease the volume or just navigate in general.

(I was going to ask different stuff now, but think I'll reserve those questions for my next post, so instead, my final question for THIS post is, I JUST noticed that the volume now actually goes to +6 dB rather than to just 0 dB when you turn it all the way up. (output through my stereo) Why's that ?

I hope I didn't rant for too long. Thanks for any answers you can give.

Doug

[pijulius]

I would like to know if you can post the old wps files at another location cause the old jclick wps is compattable with the senab jbuild, and no offence but i prefer using senab's build beucase of the extra features that is provided with it.

Take Care,
Jon

Hi Jon,

I know I answerd you this question in PM, but just so others know it to, I don't have the old wps-es, but to make the new ones compatible with the old Senab's builds, just remove the "%s" tags from the *.wps files and everything should work fine.

Cheers,
Julius

[Sweet Spot]

My last post was getting too long, so here's more questions:  I noticed that when browsing the menu screens, the white font is nice and visible when a song is playing, but that when you pause the song, the font seems to become lighter, as if another layer of color was hovering over it all, making it much harder to read, especially in bright light. I guess I can figure out how to change the font colors all together but, I rather like the white, since it's clean. Anyway to find out what's causing that ?

[pijulius]

Hi Doug,

Hey Julius, I just got back from Hungary a few days ago....

Hmm, Hungary? beszelni magyarul?

For some reason, after Sinab's beautiful boot screen finished, I'd try to go into the menu, but after that, everything would just lock up on me, and I could actually hear the hard drive platter making a very strange sound as I tilted the iPod in a back and forth motion. The only way I got the iPod to do anything, was by booting into the Apple firmware, so I just decided to wipe out that build and start fresh with yours.

Are you using Senab's build? please make sure to download my latest builds (jbuild) the thread is here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?topic=4417.0 but I'm not able to edit the first thread, so please look at the last entry for the download links.

Regarding your other problems, to tell you the truth I'm happy I wasn't able to reproduce them, but unfortunately I have no idea what could cause your problems, could you please try it with a clean official rcokbox build? I just checked out things, was listening to music for an hour or so everything went fine, no skips, no hdd activities, the cache worked fine, so I'm pretty clules here. Sorry I can't help you out better, but write me if there is anything I can do.

Lastly, an aesthetic issue which you may or may not agree with about the design of the themes. On each one, at the bottom is an icon for "play" and "pause". IMO the order in which they're represented, is backwards. For instance, when a song is playing, it shows the pause icon, and when on pause, it shows the play icon. To me, that's a bit misleading/confusing, which in turn becomes a bit annoying (just because I"m anal retentive about some things) because I think it should be the other way around, but maybe that's just me ?

Yeah, I did this on purpose, I thought it should show the function of the button as the three other arrows do, so if your ipod is playing it shows the pause so you know what the button does if you press it, and to tell you the truth it looks better with the pause sign as with the playing one, so I would prefer to keep it that way, but if you guys think that it should be otherwise I could change it easily. Btw, if you change the *.wps file and replace the play with the pause it should be as you wanted.

Fake edit #2:  There also seems to be a big lag problem now. As I'm attempting to access my list of songs by pressing the select button, nothing happens for at least 10 seconds. The lag is also affecting how fast I'm able to increase or decrease the volume or just navigate in general.

Just checked out and it works fine, it just waits till it spins up the hdd, but the menu gets accessed right away.

(I was going to ask different stuff now, but think I'll reserve those questions for my next post, so instead, my final question for THIS post is, I JUST noticed that the volume now actually goes to +6 dB rather than to just 0 dB when you turn it all the way up. (output through my stereo) Why's that ?

Maybe it is a cvs source change because I haven't done anything.

I hope I didn't rant for too long. Thanks for any answers you can give.

NP, I thank you for your feedback/comments!
Cheers,
Julius

[pijulius]

My last post was getting too long, so here's more questions:  I noticed that when browsing the menu screens, the white font is nice and visible when a song is playing, but that when you pause the song, the font seems to become lighter, as if another layer of color was hovering over it all, making it much harder to read, especially in bright light. I guess I can figure out how to change the font colors all together but, I rather like the white, since it's clean. Anyway to find out what's causing that ?

Yeah, I know this bug, but it was fixed in the latest build, please make sure to use the latest jbuild, it should be at least this one:
rockbox-jbuild-5g-20060930-1.zip
as you can see its dated to today, but there is a "-1" on the end which should mean it is a fix release, so this one should fix this problem, but write me if you still notice it.

Ooo, and please make sure to redownload the theme packages too because they have been updated too.

Cheers,
Julius

[Sweet Spot]

Hmm, Hungary? beszelni magyarul?

Nem, de a felesegem igen. She's the full Hungarian one in the family. I'm only half through my grandparents.

Hmm.. Well, I'm glad to hear that you have no problems with your build, but wonder what's up with mine. I actually did have the latest RockBox daily installed, as well as YOUR latest one too, and DID update to the latest themes as well. And no, I was never using Senab's. If you look at my post again, you'll see that I said I had big problems with it, so reverted to your latest. But ok, I'll download the latest stuff again, wipe my hd of any remnants and start over. Hope that licks it.

Regards,
Doug

[Sweet Spot]

Well here's something interesting:  I never bothered to download the build and themes again, since I know that I already had the newest ones, but remembered 2 things. One of which explained the font problem, but the other was related to (and still is) something entirely different.

The first thing is that I never "cleared" the firmware after having installed the latest build etc. I always forget to do that, and in fact, think that this step should be more easily managed by just doing a reboot, and not necessarily by "clearing".  Anyway, that fixed the lighter shade of white font. As for the skipping, I remembered that this was a problem a bit back when enabling the EQ, and apparently, it still is, a problem.

I played the song which had the most skipping (Sonny Rollins, You are too Beautiful) and had the EQ disabled, by default since I had just cleared the firmware. I listened to it for a couple minutes and there was absolutely NO skipping whatsoever. I then enabled the EQ (not the hardware one, the software one) and right away, it started skipping again.

This is a real bummer for me at this particular moment in time, since my Sony V6's decided out of nowhere, to just crap out on me. There must be a disconnected wire in it somewhere, because it's totally dead, not a single hiss/sound ! So I bought these pretty crappy Sony clip on's, which actually sound somewhat decent when the sound is EQ'd !  So now though, I can't apply any eq, or else I get constant skipping. Argh.

Other than that though, I'm pretty happy with what the iPod is able to do with RB. Now all that needs to be done is some MAJOR battery improvements, and I'll be very happy. (and the fixing of the EQ stuff too eh ?)

Doug

[pijulius]

Hmm, Hungary? beszelni magyarul?

Nem, de a felesegem igen. She's the full Hungarian one in the family. I'm only half through my grandparents.

Hmm, it's a bit funny because - az en anyanyelvem magyar - so I was suprised how little this world can be

Hmm.. Well, I'm glad to hear that you have no problems with your build, but wonder what's up with mine. I actually did have the latest RockBox daily installed, as well as YOUR latest one too, and DID update to the latest themes as well. And no, I was never using Senab's. If you look at my post again, you'll see that I said I had big problems with it, so reverted to your latest. But ok, I'll download the latest stuff again, wipe my hd of any remnants and start over. Hope that licks it.

Sorry for the misunderstanding, I thought you were using Senab's build, anyway, if you still notice the problems, could you please try things out with a clean official cvs rockbox build? so we can be sure that it has something to do with the patches.

EDIT ok, it seems your problem is a cvs related one, so you have to wait till the main devs fix that EQ thing, btw, I never used it and I don't  really plan to use it to, but I'm very happy that everything else works now "fine" for you too.

Btw: I tested with mp3 files at 128kb and 44mhz
Cheers,
Julius

[Sweet Spot]

Hmm, it's a bit funny because - az en anyanyelvem magyar - so I was suprised how little this world can be

Indeed. Where are you living now ? We mostly stayed in Nyiregyhaza, where her family lives. They have one place there and another place near Nagycserkesz (Bartok) (well more than a couple places) We stayed in Budapest for the last couple days though, and I much prefer the latter. Also stayed in a beautiful house up in the Tokaj Mountains for a few days. It was trip that I feel was too short lived.

Anyway, I thought that the EQ problem had been fixed, but perhaps it's just that the hardware EQ is implemented better than the software one, and works better ? I normally don't use any EQ either, but under the circumstances, I have to at times. But yes, if I do wind up encountering any of the other problems again, I'll be sure to use the latest of everything, and let you know what's what. Though I'm sure it's just this one isolated incident, and that things should be fine for anyone not using the software EQ. Thanks again Julius. (very Roman name for a Hungarian )

Doug

[MrMEC]

Julius, just wanted to comment that I noticed a problem with scrolling margins using your patch, which I posted in the flyspray entry:

http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5900

[rYugen]

i'm really sorry if someone already asked this question but when i play a music file with a longer artist name than my display it scrolls to the left and right in mega fast speed so i can't ready it anyway...

so it probably eats a bunch of battery....

no matter if its a long artist or a long next song or a long album or anything else...

any debugging i can do? or is that "normal"

thanks in advance

(iPod 5G first october jBuild with the new downloaded WPS from that day...usin jClix...)

[bascule]

Have you tried altering the scroll speed settings?