Any way to display embedded art on Video iPod?

[lalittle]

I've searched the forums for this, but I'm still unclear as to whether or not anybody has made a patched version of Rockbox that will extract embedded cover art and resize it to fit on a Video iPod.  I've seen patches for resizing and displaying cover art, but they all seem to only utilize a seperate image, and they require at most a 125x125 image (most of mine are 300x300.)  Does any patch utilize the embedded art (which all of my mpgs use) and can they use larger art?  I just don't have the time to extract all the art and store it with the albums, but if there was a way to display my album art (like I can with the native iPod firmware) I'd be very interested in it.

I really know nothing of programming, so this isn't something that I could make myself.

Thanks,

Larry

[psycho_maniac]

this?
http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/5697

you also need this patch for that to work of course

http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/3045

[lalittle]

I looked at those patches, but neither one seems to indicate that it will work with embedded art as far as I can tell.  Perhaps I'm just missing something -- i.e. maybe I'm looking for the wrong terminology -- but it seems like both those patches look for a file rather than looking in the file for an embedded tag.

Thanks again,

Larry

[Febs]

There is currently no way to display embedded album art.

[lalittle]

There is currently no way to display embedded album art.

Thanks -- at least now I know to stop searching.

Do you happen to know if this is something that is being looked into by anyone?  I know it's "possible" (since the native apple firmware does it) but I have no idea if it's something that is being worked on.  I personally think it would be a great feature -- to me, it's a rather odd ommission from the otherwise extensive Rockbox features -- but I have absolutely no experience in programming this sort of thing myself, and my time is limited as well.

Thanks again,

Larry

[Febs]

I'm not aware of anyone who is working on embedded album art support.

[linuxstb]

Do you happen to know if this is something that is being looked into by anyone?  I know it's "possible" (since the native apple firmware does it) but I have no idea if it's something that is being worked on.  I personally think it would be a great feature -- to me, it's a rather odd ommission from the otherwise extensive Rockbox features -- but I have absolutely no experience in programming this sort of thing myself, and my time is limited as well.

As far as I know, the Apple firmware doesn't display embedded album art - when iTunes syncs your music with your iPod, it extracts the album art from the tags and stores it as pre-scaled uncompressed images in an album art database on your ipod.  Very similar to the approach of storing album art in pre-scaled .bmp files used by the Rockbox album art patch.

[saratoga]

You could probably write a script that uses a command line id3 tag parser and jpeg resize program to do this offline.  Doing it online would be a lot harder I think.

[lalittle]

As far as I know, the Apple firmware doesn't display embedded album art - when iTunes syncs your music with your iPod, it extracts the album art from the tags and stores it as pre-scaled uncompressed images in an album art database on your ipod.  Very similar to the approach of storing album art in pre-scaled .bmp files used by the Rockbox album art patch.

Just to clarify, I don't use iTunes at all.  I use J.River Media Center (VASTLY more powerful than iTunes) to sync my iPod, but I'm assuming that it most likely works the same way iTunes does for cover art since it uses the native apple firmware.  I noticed a few files in the "Artwork" folder on the iPod, so I'm guessing that these are the files you're talking about.

This of course brings up the question of whether or not Rockbox can utilize THIS cover art -- i.e. can Rockbox access and use the files that iTunes and JR Media Center use for cover art?  This would be a lot easier than creating a second "set" of cover art files just for Rockbox.

Thanks again for all the help with this.

Larry

[AlexP]

This of course brings up the question of whether or not Rockbox can utilize THIS cover art -- i.e. can Rockbox access and use the files that iTunes and JR Media Center use for cover art?  This would be a lot easier than creating a second "set" of cover art files just for Rockbox.

I guess a problem with this is that Rockbox runs on lots of players, not just iPods.  Other players might have different formats, so why shouldn't that be the basis for the Rockbox system, not the iPod one?  All I'm saying is that in designing a Rockbox album art system, it should be what works best with Rockbox itself and all supported hardware, and not just do it one way because the iPod does.

[lalittle]

I guess a problem with this is that Rockbox runs on lots of players, not just iPods.  Other players might have different formats, so why shouldn't that be the basis for the Rockbox system, not the iPod one?  All I'm saying is that in designing a Rockbox album art system, it should be what works best with Rockbox itself and all supported hardware, and not just do it one way because the iPod does.

That makes sense.  It would also make sense, however, to create a patch for any given player so that the Rockbox cover art capability would work "natively" with that player.  There are already "player specific" patches for things like the iPod scroll wheel, so I would think that the ability to use the "native" cover art files on a player would be a very welcome and popular addition.

If I knew more about this and had the time, I would investigate doing this myself, but unfortunately this is simply not possible at this time.

Is there someplace that I could suggest or request such a patch?  I see a forum that pertains to "plugins," but I don't see any mention of "patch" discussion in any of the forum descriptions.

Thanks again,

Larry

[Llorean]

Feature requests go on the feature request section of the patch tracker.

Discussing of patches should happen primarily on the entry for the patch there, and if you feel you must use the forums, in whichever forum is appropriate based on what the patch is. For example, a patch to create a plugin could be discussed in the Plugins forum.