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Poor sound quality on X5 with RockBox

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Taurus:

--- Quote from: xlarge on August 25, 2006, 08:54:23 AM ---What headphones do you use?
I'm a bit worried; if it really clicks that terribly as you say - why don't i hear them?
And what versions of rockbox do you use?

Answer those questions and we'll be a bit further enlightenment...
If I duplicate your setup i'd hear your clicks too - right? (as long as the clicks aren't higher than ~19khz)

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Yeah, try these EQ settings! As I said, I didn't hear the clicks with EQ off either. But I'm sure if I had Vol +6 with EQ off, I'd hear them too. It's just that this is too loud for me ;)

By the way: In OF with EQ, MachBass, etc. OFF I heard clicks on:
- Startup (one click, loud)
- Volume change (while paused or running a track that has a long silence in it ) from ~Vol 30 on upwards. I cannot hear the volume change clicks beneath ~Vol 30.
Maybe there are clicks on track change too. I just couldn't put the volume up that much without permanently going deaf or seriously disturbing the guys in my office ;)
Maybe I'll try it at home with (passive) speakers.

I think the main problem is that Rockbox allows you to 'mess' around with the EQ much more (e.g. more loudness) so you hear more clicks than with OF. But I still think that there are clicks that could be avoided in RB (track change for example?).
What bothers me too is the HDD noise. I didn't hear any HDD noise in OF...

nicolinux:
I just tried here : when I put the volume at the maximum, yes I can hear clicks. But I have to go around -4 to heat something and only around -1/0 to clearly hear them. I didn't try with music because I want to save my ears a little longer.

I used no EQ and I made the test with and without the remote (it's exactly the same).

After that, I tried at "normal" volume (between -40 and -30 for me) and I didn't hear anything at all, even if I listened very very carefully. So, for me, this isn't a problem at all because I'll never listen at those high volumes...

I think the headphones are very important too. I don't really know the technical aspects, but I believe the more impedance there is, the less you should hear those clicks. I use Sennheiser HD555 which have an impedance of 55ohms. It's not that important but it's more than most of the "little" headsets (excuse me, I can't find the exact word in english...).

Speaking about remote, I must say that Rockbox is really better with those little sounds which were present with the OF (mainly when scrolling in the files). As with the Iriver (I had an H120), there isn't any sound... Rockbox is better with this sound aspect...

tvg:

--- Quote from: nicolinux on August 25, 2006, 05:57:05 PM ---Speaking about remote, I must say that Rockbox is really better with those little sounds which were present with the OF (mainly when scrolling in the files). As with the Iriver (I had an H120), there isn't any sound... Rockbox is better with this sound aspect...

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What do you mean "better"? Better to have almost unheard clicks? Or what better? I tell you the conditions at those the clicks are heard well and annoying.
What is your conclusion? What is the point where sound is better in RB than OF on X5? Do you think that it would be better to leave "better" sound as is, enjoying beautiful games and fonts and menus in RB?

nicolinux:

--- Quote from: tvg on August 26, 2006, 03:01:52 AM ---
--- Quote from: nicolinux on August 25, 2006, 05:57:05 PM ---Speaking about remote, I must say that Rockbox is really better with those little sounds which were present with the OF (mainly when scrolling in the files). As with the Iriver (I had an H120), there isn't any sound... Rockbox is better with this sound aspect...

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What do you mean "better"? Better to have almost unheard clicks? Or what better? I tell you the conditions at those the clicks are heard well and annoying.
What is your conclusion? What is the point where sound is better in RB than OF on X5? Do you think that it would be better to leave "better" sound as is, enjoying beautiful games and fonts and menus in RB?

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I'm not sure I undersand you very well... Yes, it's better because there isn't any clicks. But do you have the remote ? Because it's not the same clicks...

I did other tests and I heard other things. The "clicks" when the volume is at maximum can be heard in the OF too. So I suppose it's more an hardware issue than a software one.

And I did heard some little "clicks" when playing or pausing and when changing track. But I didn't paid any attention to them until now, since they didn't bother me at all and since I hear them only at higher volume as usual.

tvg:
Can anybody tell me, are these clicks heard on IRiver or iPod? Does this mean iaudio is technically inferior than others?

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