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Short then long next/prev dir skip "feature" making current builds unusable.

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Dwyloc:

--- Quote from: jdgordon on August 22, 2006, 07:01:34 AM ---hmm... this is odd. ive just tested it on my h300 and i can ffwd/rewind in a track with no problems but it seems to freeze up when i try changing directories...

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Could my problems be related to the fact that I have changed the ff/RW Min step to 30 seconds?


--- Quote from: jdgordon on August 22, 2006, 07:01:34 AM ---Also, you shold use hold if its on your beltclip...

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Sadly hold is off no use to me as it dose not allow me to pause and play again without switching hold off again.  I use my player at work when I am installing computers and moving servers around to listen to audio books but I have to be able to pause whatever I am listening to quickly so I can answers peoples questions or answer the phone without losing my place.

For me at least the hold button is only of use to stop my players from switching on in my pocket or bag.  The problem is that flicking the hold is just toa hard to do one handed without looking while your player is clipped to your belt (I have the same problem with both my nano and my h140).

JdGordon:

--- Quote from: Dwyloc on August 22, 2006, 07:20:55 AM ---Could my problems be related to the fact that I have changed the ff/RW Min step to 30 seconds?

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no, i just checked this.. works fine here

Dwyloc:

--- Quote from: jdgordon on August 22, 2006, 07:32:05 AM ---no, i just checked this.. works fine here

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I guess I am just far to clumsy to use rockbox I can’t seem to work the controls if I try to skip back a track then fast forward to the bit I wish to listen too I always now seem to skip out of the directory. I then need to skip back in to the directory and skip through between 10 and 50 tracks then fast forward to the part of the mp3 I wish to listen to without skipping directory again in the process.  :'(

On the positive side I don’t seem to be the only person who find it hard to predict what will happen when I try this as a few other people in the office here have tried it and agree that it is quite hard to use the controls as they are now.   ???

The general consensus (here at least) seem to be that the previous method of holding down play and pressing left or right was a lot easer to use.  Plus it’s just as easy to work the player with one hand buy holding play with your first finger and controlling the joystick with your thumb. 

As such I can’t see any point in over loading the joystick with so many key combo’s it feels like trying to achieve the right joypad tap combo to pull off a special move in a 16 bit games consol beat'em up game from the 90’s  :)

LinusN:

--- Quote from: Dwyloc on August 22, 2006, 11:10:12 AM ---I guess I am just far to clumsy to use rockbox I can’t seem to work the controls if I try to skip back a track then fast forward to the bit I wish to listen too I always now seem to skip out of the directory.

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Now we are getting somewhere. All of a sudden you mention that you actually skipped tracks as well. You didn't tell us anything about skipping in your first post.

The fact that you managed to skip a directory when doing a short-left and long-right must be a bug. I'll try to do that on my player.


--- Quote ---On the positive side I don’t seem to be the only person who find it hard to predict what will happen when I try this as a few other people in the office here have tried it and agree that it is quite hard to use the controls as they are now.   ???

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...and as they have been for months and months until a week ago. Why haven't you complained about this until now?


--- Quote ---The general consensus (here at least) seem to be that the previous method of holding down play and pressing left or right was a lot easer to use.  Plus it’s just as easy to work the player with one hand buy holding play with your first finger and controlling the joystick with your thumb.

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...if you are left handed.


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As such I can’t see any point in over loading the joystick with so many key combo’s it feels like trying to achieve the right joypad tap combo to pull off a special move in a 16 bit games consol beat'em up game from the 90’s  :)

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I think we should avoid two-button combinations, as they are hard to use with one hand.

Dwyloc:

--- Quote from: LinusN on August 22, 2006, 11:50:40 AM ---The fact that you managed to skip a directory when doing a short-left and long-right must be a bug. I'll try to do that on my player.

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I think it may just be the combination of my player getting a bit old and the standard iRiver h140 case getting in the way of the joypad.


--- Quote from: LinusN on August 22, 2006, 11:50:40 AM ---...if you are left handed.


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I am right handed and am holding the player in my palm of my right hand with my thumb on the joypad and using my first finger to press the controls buttons right hand side of the player.
 
As such I can’t see any point in over loading the joystick with so many key combo’s it feels like trying to achieve the right joypad tap combo to pull off a special move in a 16 bit games consol beat'em up game from the 90’s  :)

--- Quote from: LinusN on August 22, 2006, 11:50:40 AM ---I think we should avoid two-button combinations, as they are hard to use with one hand.

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For me at least it is a lot harder to deal with multi press combos that rely on timing then just hold down play and press the joypad in a direction.

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